U kidding? Dealer wont cover this madness.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1328247499

I've seen this pics obviously like 100 times, but never knew why you would need that much room, but after installing my big turbo I see the necessity of making so much room. I still don't see a way to use a sawsall in that space, but then again I see what happens when you try.

Now that I think about it, this is probably the best advice which has ever been uttered on this forum.

A CPO 997 is going to be out of this price range, so I retract my previous recommendation. And so are the Merc AMG SL65 and the Jag XKR, which would have been my other recommendations.


Buy a Corvette.

Yah


So

Isf (hard to find used locally)
Pluszes- toyota.
Minuses- fake exhaust tups

Porsche 997
Pluszes- nat aspirated.
Minuses- dunno. Expensive to service?

Bmw... 335i? Um m5?
Pluszes- 335i is modifiable to genuine fastness. M5 is fast
Minuses- reliabuliry.

C5z
Pluszes- genuinely fast wenkdified
Minuzsz- pusha drices one, white trash glory, looks like a firebird

What more could you want?

I'm working on a mullet at the moment

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/a...24k-miles.html

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/a...7-package.html

^ I contemplated this one for a while.

Test drove some cars today


BMW 135i convertible. 45K miles, CPO, $26K
Porsche 997 carrerra S convertible. 40K miles, CPO, $65K

BMW was actually quite awesome. Very fun car. Quite powerful and handled the turns very nicely. Felt like a big fat turbo miata with a nicer interior. I was very very impressed. Not a Mazda RX8 for driving feel and instant ability to drive at 95%, but I felt very confident pushing the car. For $26K I thought it was a great deal. I liked it MUCH more than the automatic 335D that I drove before. Manual >>>> automatic.

Porsche was very cool as well. Closest thing to a racecar from the factory that I have driven. Engine sounded amazing, power was great, and the power curve felt similar to the bimmer. The steering and suspension was also great. Interior was kinda booring. I did not feel like it had $65K of value. Maybe that's because it felt like a modified car to start with. Quite raw. I was expecting more plush.

@26k I'd def go with the bimmer

or get a low mile c6 vette for around the same

(PLACE HERE THE OVERUSED PICTURE OF THE SAWZALL INCIDENT THAT WON'T GO AWAY BUT SHOULD)

He made a mistake and he has learned from it. I think Fae should get a dollar every time someone brings that picture up again to cover future therapy. I have made mistakes and learned from them and hopefully I wont repeat them, and I don't like to be reminded of them daily. Mistakes make you better if you grow from it. Flora probably has. Lets use positive reinforcement and not show that pic again. Poor guy never gets to let it go.


On with the DD. In order to have a car that every time you see it it makes you gaga I think a vette is out. They are amazing cars with amazing numbers but they are not unique enough to fit that category. You need an exotic looking car with reliable power train. Perhaps a lightly modded vette might just fit in there but then it can get borderline rice. 911 turbos can be nice and oh so classic but get some wild color and some wheels, not the old man silver or grey. For another 20K on top of the 911T you can get 700hp crank.
NSX is great shape and rare but not sure on powertrain. Your budget leaves so many choices open - this is going to take a while.

PS - what do you do for work and how does it feel to be financially well covered ?? (I don't know myself)

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1340233783

black 335i with red leather interior.
will make you feel like driving a black woman's vagina.

the 135i is a great car
The engine is plenty tunable too.
The lack of an LSD is a little limiting, but you can get aftermarket one installed
Get some sway bars and KW coilovers and it will handle great too.

Yee but the Porsche comes with -----.

Aww thanks for sticking up for me. You're a -----.

I don't mind being shown my "learning experiences". I'm still proud of myself for not knowing jack n getting stuff done.




I am a beltway bandit. To quote an ex GF, "Money is only a problem when you don't have it". So in short, life is still full of it's challenges nigz




I already have plenty of it. Once, a certain special girl asked me on our first date, "so, how big is your dick"

and i responded

"big enough to please myself with"

that is how i feel about my choice of cars too.

so can you actually respond to his question? or do you work the corner and can't "disclose" actual job title
I'm really curious as well lol
so its tiny:giggle:

He just lives off reparations for indians. True story.

It would take too long to sexplain. In short, i sell datacenter. Not rich at all. I also have zero dependents. My mortgage is $2000. Bleh

And if you want to see the size of my weinis come to burning man i should be having sex in public again this year

I'm always wondering what other miata gays do for a living.
Theres lots of people on here that make serious bank, and lots that are broked!ck trash.
When someone starts bringing up 50k cars like it aint no thang, I want to know what they're doing and if they can really afford it or are dumba$$es who just can't have money without spending it.

this, forreal bros

Well i guess it depends on your definition of "afford".

I have seen many people get a "baller" 50k/yr job and buy new 50k cars. They
Didnt die or go bankrupt so i guess they afforded it?

Back when i made like 70k less than i do now i think i actually had more "spending cash". Disposable income is a matter of lifestyle and debt.

it's nto what you make, it's what you spend

Last year I spent well over $40,000 on food and drink. I did my accounting and was absolutely staggered.

After that I decided to cut back quite a bit on dat shtuff.

The Texas c6z is MUY SEXY

c6 reallllly looks like a lotus elise.

i saw one with a badass diffuser and it was so moisty

elise is +++++compliment

True, and you can be happy / satisfied this way as well. Spend within your means. Just being a smart shopper can get you goods beyond what your income might actually be. When my miata is done I'll have a seriously fast car for the price of a new bottom rung econo car.
I also just picked up a beat on newer Honda TRX90 and CRF70. A few hours of labour per machine and about $250 in parts split between them and my kids will be in heaven. It looks like I spent $2500 when I only put out $800. Sometimes you gotta by what you can and make it work.

I guess food stamps and extreme couponing isnt rad enough eh?

Long before I became a boss, before my internship with an urban planning firm, before my job at that sorority house, before transforming into a bro, before college even, before I knew you could get condoms for free, I worked at a grocery store and it sucked. It really sucked. It sucked every goddamn second I was there. I hated my job, but no matter how pissed I was with my shitass fing job ringing up bread and weighing fruit, i was always more pissed off at the people who'd walk in with more coupons than bill in their respective wallets. Asians were always the worst and they would always have exact chance, too.

I couldn't understandd it then and i still can't understand how tight money is when you flat out argue with the cashier over your coupon's expiration dates. Sometimes I wanted to just give people their 35 cents to stfu and go away.

I guess so.
To me "afford" means you can pay for it on the spot without financing or borrowing.
That's not broke. That's cheap.

If, after every bill you have, plus your monthly splurge budget,
and having a reserve for an emergency you have 1500 dollars a month to spend on a car and you go buy a 50k car that costs you 800-900 month, I would consider you to be able to "afford" it. But, if you buy a 100k car that costs you $1600/month so you have to take from your monthly splurge allowance, you can't "afford" it.

Paying cash for a 50k car is the worst investment you can make.

Why's that?
How is it better to pay interest no a 50k loan?
Assuming we're discussing out of pocket loss vs less loss overall, not "well you could finance it and use the money to make more money" (which obviously makes sense, but is not the point here)

Because you are 50k poorer today versus taking a loan for 5 years at a minimal interest rate and still having the cash in your pocket. Its always beneficial to have liquid assets that can be quickly used for other things, if you need to get cash out of a vette its going to be pretty hard in a pinch. Plus the reason you mentioned holds true too. Besides that, its not wise to tie up money in a depreciating asset for a long term time period. The interest is so low its almost not going to be felt anyway.

So in short when you live in a country like the US and you are privileged enough to get credit, take it. Thats not saying everyone should though, cause we know where that goes.

Because the whole basis of Finance is a dollar today is worth more than a dollar tomorrow. Plus money is so cheap right now, itd be retarded to drop 50K cash on a car, when you could finance it at a couple percent and easily make more than that on the market.

Most of the ballers that are smart with money dont pay cash for exotics either. Had a guy tell me he wanted a 599 so he went down to a credit union, opened a 50 dollar checking account and then applied for a car loan for a 599, they gave him like 2.5%, so he financed it and took all the money and put it on the market.

:facepalm:

I understand all that. Hence my 2nd part of the post where I specifically mentioned "assuming we're not talking about.....etc".

I'm just saying that buying outright you end up SPENDING LESS on the car overall. What you do with the money if financing/etc is a completely different topic altogether.

Anyways, I'll rephrase it so this already off topic thread doesn't drift more off topic:
To "afford" something, to me, means you CAN buy it outright if you wanted to.

Being older helps. Being married with a kid does not.

A car loan can only make financial sense if you can reinvest your cash at a higher rate of return. If you can get a car loan at 3% but can invest your money somewhere and get a > 3% return, then it makes sense. You also need to factor in risk obviously - stock market may average better than x%, but there are no guarantees.

Still, there is no part of me that can imagine paying a monthly car payment. I took a very short term loan from my dad in 2003 to buy an E36 M3, but that was because I was just coming out of school and had nothing.

Exactly.

Also I assume a low interest rate, not 10%.

All the cars we are talking about WILL depreciate.

We a not talking about a Million dollar car that would end up having a good ROR.

^so how would you pay the $60k for that SLC? no credit union is going to finance that

exactly.
and if we're going to go down "that" path, how many people ACTUALLY do something like that? like 10-20% if that.
Most buy the car and just make payments, giving up a ton of money in interest (and I'm not talking about those special uber low rates or 0%).

Too many people read "rich dad poor dad" and talk like they live by it lol

An irresponsible kit car loan at 6%.

Obviously you spend less on the car in total but at the end of the day it just isn't the best way to utilize the money. Forget about putting the money in the market or in a high yield savings, that idea died about 4 years ago. If you put the money in the market today its a high likelihood you will lose it. Probably better off putting it in a 401k and getting a tax refund. Assuming you have other money from which to pay the loan.

Btw. I agree with you. Its the Russian mentality thanks to the fact that credit never existed in the soviet union and our parents bought everything in cash. They came here and continued the practice. ....majority of them did. Some went ape ---- and put themselves in a hole as a result.

But... without credit, I doubt you'll be able to "afford" a house. Unless you live in like Texas where a house is like 60k.

you would really do that?

I make pennies, so I drive a bunk Miata.

I love driving fun/fast/interesting cars, but I hate paying to play. It would kill me if I felt like I owned a car that was depreciating more than $1000 or so per year. A friend of mine bought a 2011 GT3 last year, drove it for a year and sold it. I don't know the specifics, but can you imagine the deprecation there? I bet it was north of $2k per month.

Someone alluded to it above - a car doesn't cost you the purchase price. What it costs you is the purchase price minus what you are able to sell it for, amortized over the amount of time you own it (plus maintenance, repairs, insurance, etc). If you buy a car for $20k, drive it for two years and then sell it for $17.6k, it cost you $100 a month to drive.

That's why I recommended some sort of LSx swapped car - most of them are based on fully depreciated 10-20 year old platforms and you can buy one already built for less than the cost to build one. That way you can drive it for a few years, enjoy it, then sell it for what you paid for it.

I fully expect to make a little bit of cash when I go to sell the Lexus.

and please let me know when you do.

Funny. I buy older tractors, run them for a year, then sell them for the same or a bit more then I bought them for. Free year of work and usually end up with extra 500-1500 dollar implements that stay with us.

Cars on the other hand, I get raped on. I have an XJ right now I'm thinking about parting out because it has little issues that bug me and I'd feel bad selling the whole truck to someone, even at the 3500 asking price.... even with new 1k tires, 600 in lockers, 1k in armor, and 2K+ of preventative maintenance work done just to keep the truck off the side of the road.

If you get a vette, get a base or GS. With your luck, you'll pop the LS7, or the car will catch on fire. When you get bored with it, have someone else put a procharger on it if your willing to spin it.

oh will blow an apex seal:D

Thinking about, yes, but as much as I want it, I probably wont do it.

I think I would have just as much fun in a fully built 15-20k car (before build) than spending a year, and 60-70k on that.

think about how much ass you could get if you were young and single wihth that thing

Why is this thread 4 pages long? Why am I contributing to it? Jump on LS1tech or norotor. They have a million sweet cars that are bing sold for pennies on the dollar since no one is able to make their lot payments this year.

I bought my C5 in November of 2009 for $24k, it had 29k miles on it and bald tires. I got a really great deal considering my car's mods, mileage and condition.

I'm certain I could flip it for $26k but I don't think I could ever replace it -- it's seriously cherry. I put a lot of thought into selling it for a C6 Z06 but there's something about the C5 FRC body that rubs me right where my clit should be.

With the price to maintain a C6Z on the track and the oiling issues the 6.0/6.2/7.0s have, I'd stick with the 5.7 and the nice batwing pan.

I ran the numbers on heads, a larger cam, some NAWZZZZZ and some DRs... really thinking about it.

inb4iveseenthewayyoudriveyoullblowyourselfup

also I want some SOUND so I can blow skirts off hoes when I tear by. thinking about getting a couple of test pipes and just a single resonator for each bank located around where the factory exhaust is...

too loud? it's not a DD

Have someone do the bypass mod on the Ti's. With spray, you'll have enough sound. That's the one thing I loved/hated about spray. You can tell when it hits just from the sound.

To do spray right, your not far from a blower setup. I think I had 3000 or so into the WS6 DP setup after the controller, bottles, and filling station. It adds up quick.

You don't have Kook LT's and a test X-pipe? for shame. No 2 step for you.

I was looking at a big single:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1340295100

http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/p-44-...turbo-kit.aspx

built transmission, built rear, probably a built motor, cooling stuff, it's gonna kill me but holy fucking pissballs would that be badass

I have TPIS LTs (old school) with an x pipe

Bought my truck last year, and can sell it now for the same as what I paid with TT+L.

I bought my F250 for $3500 and it's easily worth 2x that but I'll never sell it.

Xkr?

Sexy!