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Faeflora 06-17-2012 03:00 AM

What super spiffy thing should I ride for $30-$50K???
 
I just got a new ballar job

Pluis I think I mma take in a new roommate for $450/month taxfree yo.

I am considering rewarding myself with a super spiffy ride.

Criteria:

- Can be BUILT not bought. Got that? 30-50K total budget

- SEXY I want to get a full on stiffy each time I walk up to it. AND sit down in it. No vipers.
- fast. Needs to be at least as fast as my turbo miata. That means 4:1 weight to power ratio or better.
- dailyable. This can really be accomplished by some squishy clutch and a bigass muffler. And a 93 octane tune.
- maintainable. I like cheap maintenance. not something that will cost $10,000 a year in maintainence. i already have one of those. :|

What would you drive?



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Nagase 06-17-2012 03:23 AM

FD RX7 with 500+ cu v8.

FFR Daytona with 500+ cu V8.

The latter would be incredibly sexy. The former would be sexy and more dailyable.

Motor: LS based, of course. Sub out big displacement for turbo/super if you want.

Faeflora 06-17-2012 03:33 AM


Originally Posted by Nagase (Post 891046)
FD RX7 with 500+ cu v8.

FFR Daytona with 500+ cu V8.

The latter would be incredibly sexy. The former would be sexy and more dailyable.

Motor: LS based, of course. Sub out big displacement for turbo/super if you want.


This sounds good. But recall above 700+ hp criteria. Would need build LS. Plus turbie.

18psi 06-17-2012 12:05 PM

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1339949105

crashnscar 06-17-2012 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 891097)

Cuts are too clean :giggle:

18psi 06-17-2012 12:14 PM

well with a 30-50k budget I'd expect him to buy a better sawzall and take sawzall classes

thirdgen 06-17-2012 12:17 PM

I have a feeling this is another "maybe I'll buy a $50,000 BMW" thread, but he ends up buying another Miata.

18psi 06-17-2012 12:18 PM

ding ding ding we have a winner

hustler 06-17-2012 12:40 PM

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https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1339951236
With the diesel...someone else built it.

Or a SBC swab old Mercedes or E36 sedan.

gorillazfan1023 06-17-2012 12:48 PM

I agree with Hustler. Or C63 amg sedan. I'm sure you could put an over priced pod filter or exhaust on it. Then you've "built it".

Faeflora 06-17-2012 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 891097)


Well, this is actually pretty darn cool.



Originally Posted by hustler (Post 891111)
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1339951236
With the diesel...someone else built it.

Or a SBC swab old Mercedes or E36 sedan.

Hmm that diesel sounds pretty neat. But... slow

I already bought the second miata guys. Do not need more of that.

I am glad I did not buy the bimmer. For that much money I could reallly get something much much cooler. Hence this thread.

I like Nagase's RX7 idea.

Am also thinking about a NSX with a swap.

pusha 06-17-2012 01:51 PM

NSX with a swap? are you retarded?

bro, have you looked at C5 Z06s? with $50k you could build a retarded fast car

njn63 06-17-2012 02:01 PM

MKIV Supra.

jasonb 06-17-2012 02:53 PM

i would totally get a diablo: "active suspensions (automatically adjusting hardness with the speed)"

http://carclassic.com/Lamborghini_Di...rive_EF28.html

Savington 06-17-2012 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by crashnscar (Post 891101)
Cuts are too clean :giggle:

:bowrofl:

pusha 06-17-2012 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by jasonb (Post 891157)
i would totally get a diablo: "active suspensions (automatically adjusting hardness with the speed)"

http://carclassic.com/Lamborghini_Di...rive_EF28.html

the "man" can't even pull a transmission from a Miata and you want him to get his grimy little hands on a Lamborghini?

Joe Perez 06-17-2012 03:11 PM

If you're serious about the budget, buy a 997-style Porsche 911 Carrera ('05 - '08) and turbocharge it. 500+ HP is achievable on that engine with pump gas.

Just be aware that to do bodywork on a 911, you need to use Bosch brand sawzall blades.

matthewdesigns 06-17-2012 03:18 PM

996 with an LS swap.

http://www.renegadehybrids.com/

Nagase 06-17-2012 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 891047)
This sounds good. But recall above 700+ hp criteria. Would need build LS. Plus turbie.

Try again. http://www.golenengineservice.com/en...t-rod-turn-key

502 cu

810 hp

No turbe. Just an example.

Turbo would be easier and cheaper though.

flounder 06-17-2012 03:44 PM

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https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1339962267 Sawzall offer you a big signing bonus?:rofl:

But seriously, if I had the money.....http://pics.sr4000.com/picsbig/11088...bra--69009.jpg

Buy a kit and stuff a coyote 5.0l in it.

Saml01 06-17-2012 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by matthewdesigns (Post 891167)
996 with an LS swap.

http://www.renegadehybrids.com/

The conversion parts are cheaper than parts for a monster miata. That sir, is nuts.

Besides that. Can a RHD Skyline be had for 50?

What about buying an E46 M3 and building that?

pusha 06-17-2012 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by matthewdesigns (Post 891167)
996 with an LS swap.

http://www.renegadehybrids.com/

dude up the road from me had a 930 that he'd grown tired of maintaining so he swapped in a sbc for about the cost of a rebuild. he sold it some time ago in favor of a new Boxster (wtf?) but it was a bad ass little car.

Joe Perez 06-17-2012 03:57 PM

The 930 motor bears very little resemblance to a modern 911 engine.

pusha 06-17-2012 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 891177)
The 930 motor bears very little resemblance to a modern 911 engine.

oh of course, but he was making 2x the power with that sbc and it cost him like 1/8th to operate

redturbomiata 06-17-2012 04:06 PM

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man up and build this, Factory Five GTM, powered by an LSx
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1339963814

Faeflora 06-17-2012 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by pusha (Post 891140)
NSX with a swap? are you retarded?

bro, have you looked at C5 Z06s? with $50k you could build a retarded fast car

Why not swap an NSX??? They are SOOOOOO sexy in person. That motor though. Puke

And c5? Looks like a frikken thunderbird. Barf. C6 looks fantastic though.

Faeflora 06-17-2012 05:12 PM

Rx7 something swap sounds very promising. I see one on cars.com actually
For $10k.

I am thinking i could get a built ls motor for around $10k

Driveline shiz for $10k

Turbo shiz and ems shiz for $10k

And run all of it. Full interior.

Thoughts?

2manyhobyz 06-17-2012 05:13 PM

LOTUS EXIGE S --Done -- Drink Beer
(There's always stuff to do to any car)

Also, M3 with LS conversion. Power and reliability. And fits more than 2 peoples.

Nagase 06-17-2012 05:18 PM

RX7 is the obvious choice.

Sexy. Light. LSx fits great.

pusha 06-17-2012 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 891204)
Rx7 something swap sounds very promising. I see one on cars.com actually
For $10k.

I am thinking i could get a built ls motor for around $10k

Driveline shiz for $10k

Turbo shiz and ems shiz for $10k

And run all of it. Full interior.

Thoughts?

norotors.com

3rdCarMX5 06-17-2012 05:29 PM

Cts-V might fit in the price range. For this kind of money it better not be some swapped/finicky/pain in the ass car. Who wants to have their fun/fast car to be on a lift 80% of the time, unless you want to pay 50k to work on a car.

Faeflora 06-17-2012 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by 3rdCarMX5 (Post 891219)
Cts-V might fit in the price range. For this kind of money it better not be some swapped/finicky/pain in the ass car. Who wants to have their fun/fast car to be on a lift 80% of the time, unless you want to pay 50k to work on a car.

No

I don't want to pay $50K to work on a car.

I've probably paid about that for my miata but at least I expected it to be a long bumpy road.

This I would want to be super solid. At least as solid as it could be on pump gas.

Faeflora 06-17-2012 07:21 PM

Oh and CTS-V is a nice option. I do like the look of the new coupe thing. But the massive depreciation offends me.

At least if I get a RX7 it will actually be worth more by the time I am done with it. Yes I will probably have someone else involved in the build the whole time to avoid my special type of wrenching.

Nagase 06-17-2012 07:22 PM

Good luck getting a 4:1 power ratio in a car that's reliable.

And not a high displacement lightweight car.

Like... the Corvette and Viper you shot down.

With a CTS-V you're going to need 1,000 HP or more to get 4:1.

Your power expectations for a DD need to be changed, or your reliability, or your money... or get a lighter car. 750 hp can be done n/a with a stock block (just the block) LSx. Simple, light, less issues with points of failure, 4:1 power on a 3000 lb car.

Faeflora 06-17-2012 07:26 PM

OK Fine.

And the viper interior is soooooo horribel but the outside omggggzz i was following one last night. i wanted to fuky it so bad.

Maybe I should get this.

http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=8948.0

Faeflora 06-17-2012 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by Nagase (Post 891170)
Try again. http://www.golenengineservice.com/en...t-rod-turn-key

502 cu

810 hp

No turbe. Just an example.

Turbo would be easier and cheaper though.


How much is this thing? 800hp of nat asp sounds palatable.

Nagase 06-17-2012 07:29 PM

HELL YES.

Drive it, put 20k miles on it, get all the reliability sorted out...

Then spend 10k on a built engine that does a million n/a hp, build the driveline, and you're under budget.

Yeah. The Viper interior is omg puke. x.x It's so pretty outside though.

Nagase 06-17-2012 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 891269)
How much is this thing? 800hp of nat asp sounds palatable.

From the big name LS builders, you're talking big $$$$$.

That's also a custom block, which is $$$ just itself.

Try this: http://hppmotorsports.com/main/index...&product_id=97

As the first 750 hp LSx I found with a price.

Faeflora 06-17-2012 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by Nagase (Post 891271)
From the big name LS builders, you're talking big $$$$$.

That's also a custom block, which is $$$ just itself.

Try this: http://hppmotorsports.com/main/index...&product_id=97

As the first 750 hp LSx I found with a price.


Uhhh

That is like the same price as a flyin miata built longblock stroker 2.0

Which would you choose for your car? ;)

Nagase 06-17-2012 07:37 PM

Note the longblock comes out to just over 14k, so don't get too excited... with IM, TB and other stuff included though...

But it'll make 750hp as opposed to the FM 200 hp. So, probably the LS. :P

Edit: Still 1k cheaper than a fully built FM shortblock though. LOL @ FM.

Edit2: Longblock for longblock... almost the exact same price. Wow.

Faeflora 06-17-2012 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by Nagase (Post 891275)
Note the longblock comes out to just over 14k, so don't get too excited... with IM, TB and other stuff included though...

But it'll make 750hp as opposed to the FM 200 hp. So, probably the LS. :P

Edit: Still 1k cheaper than a fully built FM shortblock though. LOL @ FM.

Edit2: Longblock for longblock... almost the exact same price. Wow.



Ya.

Guess who chose the wrong motor platform


All of us. :facepalm:

18psi 06-17-2012 07:49 PM

None of us did. Well maybe you.

If I would actually take this thread seriously, I'd tell you to get an s2k. Looks insanely sexi, and with the kinda money you are pretending to have, it would make 700-1000 easily and rape face. Built motor, straight cut gears, biggest borg available, etc.

Nagase 06-17-2012 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 891282)
Ya.

Guess who chose the wrong motor platform


All of us. :facepalm:

Don't get me started on that. I'm too tempted to pull out my VVT/turbo setup and put in a rotary right now. :|

18psi 06-17-2012 07:51 PM

Why? You hate reliability?

Nagase 06-17-2012 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 891286)
Why? You hate reliability?

:fawk::fawk::fawk::fawk::fawk::fawk::fawk::fawk: :jerkit:

flier129 06-17-2012 07:54 PM

FD LSx

I wonder if you can get a C6z for around $50k now?

timk 06-17-2012 08:05 PM

I'd rock a BMW 1M

BogusSVO 06-17-2012 08:14 PM

Get a truck..... 8 foot bed nevers needs made!!

haul the miata to the track.. fetch parts... drag drunk chicks cars out of the ditch at 3 am!!

http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-car-...50-svt-raptor/

Buy the truck.. add a few bolt ons... roll bar.. winch.. nerf bars...

You will gain redneck macho baller status!!

turotufas 06-17-2012 08:17 PM

50k for another car...

Rent car at Nordschleife

Rent a car at Ebisu

Buy a truck.

Vashthestampede 06-17-2012 08:25 PM

Now that I work at the detail shop I mental ---- every nice car that comes in. I stare at the interiors trying to decide what I love and what I hate. The more cars we work on as time goes on the better they seem to get.

If I was going to drop $30k+ on a car I'd want the interior to be TITS. ---- the "performance" so much, only because that's what the miata is for. Just so long as it drives nice and gets out of its own way, I'm ok with that.

For me, I'd want heated and cooled seats, heated steering wheel, leather everything, console full of buttons, plenty of space, etc etc.

I really like the new C-Class Mercedes. Mid 2000's Porsche. Cadillac. Audi. BMW.

---- spending that kind of cash on another project or gm junk.

njn63 06-17-2012 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 891201)
And c5? Looks like a frikken thunderbird. Barf. C6 looks fantastic though.

They actually look like a FD... which you are ok with owning. :rofl:

2ndGearRubber 06-17-2012 08:40 PM

Why not take that 50k, give it to FM, and have them make your car run?

18psi 06-17-2012 08:43 PM

because he doesn't have 30 or 50k and this is yet another troll thread

thirdgen 06-17-2012 08:46 PM

Troll thread, but if not...Scion FR-S. since you're a Subaru guy, the FR-S has a 2.0 Subaru engine in case you didn't know.
And RWD...
And 6 speed...

Joe Perez 06-17-2012 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 891316)
because he doesn't have 30 or 50k

Obviously.

I simply assumed that he would be securing a loan to cover 100% of the cost of the vehicle, presumably at no less than 14% APR.

18psi 06-17-2012 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 891319)
Troll thread, but if not...Scion FR-S. since you're a Subaru guy, the FR-S has a 2.0 Subaru engine in case you didn't know.
And RWD...
And 6 speed...


he can't put together a running miata that's been out for 20 years and has a plethora of parts and modifications competing with some of the most aftermarket-backed cars out there.

you think he should get a car that just came out this year?

REALLY?


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 891320)
Obviously.

I simply assumed that he would be securing a loan to cover 100% of the cost of the vehicle, presumably at no less than 14% APR.

true. but even then the likelihood of this actually taking place is like 2%

thirdgen 06-17-2012 08:50 PM

What was I thinking!!!

Opti 06-17-2012 09:03 PM

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Easy... C6Z. Put some CCWs or something on it with some Michelins or Invos. Boom daily driveable.

Do bolt ons down the road. make like 475whp.

With everyone making 1K hp it doesnt sound like a lot, but a 500whp vette will boogie especially if you put traction to it.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1339981444

Opti 06-17-2012 09:07 PM

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My choice
Early Viper GTS for under 30K. The ones with forged motors are good for like 750whp with stock bottom end. Even factory clutch will handle it. I think the ones prior to 99 have the forged bottom end IIRC
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1339981673.

karter74 06-17-2012 09:31 PM

Whatever you get, just make sure that SOMEBODY ELSE built the car so it will run. We don't need any more "How do I install a pilot bearing" threads.


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