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Old 04-03-2009, 02:38 AM   #41
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malachi you fail and railz fails at driving his IC is why he looses. and his low timing numbers.
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It really is, I was laughing my *** off over him quoting me

Truly funny ****, Hustler you should be a comedian or work on fox news or something. I can't get enough of it HAHAHAHHAHAHA.
It REALLY is ******* funny!

Hustler's my bro,my *****,you got a ******* problem with that?

Hustler is the resident comedian and newb beatdown squad member,I suggest you STFU already.
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Old 04-03-2009, 10:06 AM   #43
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of course he's a liberal.
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Old 04-03-2009, 11:06 AM   #44
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of course he's a liberal.
a fiscal conservative liberal with guns. lol
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just wanted to see if the guy correcting my inference was the same guy who thinks i should get more spark advance than 28* at 15psi/260whp.
I only told you to try it, with the disclaimer that I didn't have specific experience with the Miata engine. And later I also admitted that you may have hit the sweet spot for this particular engine. Doesnt hurt my credibility any cause I've actually worked for Suzuki R&D before.
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a fiscal conservative liberal with guns. lol

That lives in Texas.
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Old 04-03-2009, 01:30 PM   #47
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Doesnt hurt my credibility any cause I've actually worked for Suzuki R&D before.
...and they spent 1000+ hours tuning the car?
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a fiscal conservative liberal with guns. lol
my dad is an NRA member registered democrat in california. wat.
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im a registered democrat.
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im a registered democrat.
ummmm virginia doesn't have party registration
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I'm a registered firearm.
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ummmm virginia doesn't have party registration
then why can't i vote in any republican primary?
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because you didn't show up? you can vote in all primaries far as i know.
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oh well. let's talk about BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOst. or cats.
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...and they spent 1000+ hours tuning the car?
For a completely new vehicle program, 40-60 engineers, and a program start-to-finish of about 3 years. I'm not even counting the hours on that.

For a race engine the time is more like 75-150 hours, mostly spent on WOT durability and transients. Less than 50% of that time is spent on the dyno. The driver is a significant part of the equation. Especially if we dont have data or a dyno that does a full track simulation like this:

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For a completely new vehicle program, 40-60 engineers, and a program start-to-finish of about 3 years. I'm not even counting the hours on that.

For a race engine the time is more like 75-150 hours, mostly spent on WOT durability and transients. Less than 50% of that time is spent on the dyno. The driver is a significant part of the equation. Especially if we dont have data or a dyno that does a full track simulation like this:

go to 1:00 i the vid...they're obviously using megalog viewer.

You're telling me that Suzuki spent 3-years with multiple employees on tuning EFI for 1 engine?
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Not just Suzuki. I have friends working for the big 3/Cat/Cummins who concur that it takes a similar amount of time, or higher, for a full engine cal with a brand new controller.

2012 Diesel emissions cal is being done right now at Cummins, 3 years in advance.

The stuff we enthusiasts do is similar to a race engine cal which does not have a shitload of time put into OBD-2/CAN, emissions, and durability. These 3 things take 75% of the time in a production engine program.

And [email protected] megalogviewer.
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Not just Suzuki. I have friends working for the big 3/Cat/Cummins who concur that it takes a similar amount of time, or higher, for a full engine cal with a brand new controller.

And [email protected] megalogviewer.
well that response is gay as **** and I disallow it from consideration. I was surprised to see that Renault is using MLV...I wonder if they registered or deal with the shitty pop-up like I do?
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go to 1:00 i the vid...they're obviously using megalog viewer.

You're telling me that Suzuki spent 3-years with multiple employees on tuning EFI for 1 engine?

That is then used for 3-5yrs, or even 10yrs and in several different models. They put 100s, and maybe thousands of hours into making it run perfectly in all situations. It's part of building a car, and they have to warranty it.
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Point is most SC guys go SC for response and power band. If I cared about making at least 200rwhp i'd go turbo or a high end SC kit which would kill my wallet. Turbo's have good power bands too but for SC's it seems to be the priority.
So superchargers have better response and power band than turbo setups on Miatas? hmm....
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