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flounder 06-19-2013 07:25 PM

You think our turbos are small...
 
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This is mounted to a 2013 ford fusion eco boost 2.0l. Look at that turbine!:rofl:https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1371684284

Joe Perez 06-19-2013 07:44 PM

I see nothing but failure.

(edit for explanation: he forgot to post the image the first time around. It's now fixed.)

FRT_Fun 06-19-2013 07:47 PM

It's so small you can't even see the picture.

Fireindc 06-19-2013 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by FRT_Fun (Post 1023242)
It's so small you can't even see the picture.

What is this, a turbo for ants?

FRT_Fun 06-19-2013 08:05 PM

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https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1371686712

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1371686935

http://www.motoman.tv/Portals/0/Edit...%20Charger.jpg

18psi 06-19-2013 08:20 PM

Techsalvager probably busted a nut over that turbo

aaronc7 06-19-2013 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1023248)
Techsalvager probably busted a nut over that turbo

:rofl::rofl:

curly 06-19-2013 08:49 PM

Why is a 2013 rusting already. I have no rust on my '93 miata.

FRT_Fun 06-19-2013 08:57 PM

dat rust

FowlerMotorsports 06-19-2013 09:10 PM

Reminds me of ford mustangs. Pull off the lot, days later rusted rearend

thirdgen 06-19-2013 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by Fireindc (Post 1023244)
What is this, a turbo for ants?

Lol, easy Zoolander!

viperormiata 06-19-2013 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by thirdgen (Post 1023262)
Lol, easy Zoolander!

I can't resist.

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FowlerMotorsports 06-19-2013 09:29 PM

But why small turbos?

flounder 06-19-2013 10:14 PM

It had 9800 miles on it.

I think most people that buy ford passenger cars would rather have instant response vs lag and topend. Also, I may be wrong on this, but I think more fuel is wasted trying to get up to speed than cruising so a quick spooling mini turbo helps with fuel economy too.

In saying that,

That thing is micro penis. I would be ashamed to be in possession of said turbo.

aaronc7 06-19-2013 10:52 PM

it's a fusion. most people want smooth power delivery and low end torque, coupled iwth good fuel economy. hence an inline 4 with tiny terbo.

Braineack 06-20-2013 07:47 AM

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Yeah tiny turbos are all the rave:

this is the ABARTH:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1371728823

I remember thinking the diameter is about my silver dollar nipple size. (I realize I could have said just silver dollar size.)

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1371728823


Turbo on the Sonic:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1371728823

this is a 1.4L that barely makes 100hp.


Ford ECOBOOST turbos:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1371728823

built into the manifold:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1371728823

Note that the wastegate is normally open and the wastegate uses vacuum to pull it closed. I also remember the turbo/manifold thing being bolted onto the motor kinda like a subaru up-pipe where there was just one exhaust outlet.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1371728823


another ford ecoboost:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1371728823

hey look, a silicone drain hose. :eek:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1371728823




And finally, these are instruction on how to use a manual transmission, incase the ABARTH couldn't be more retarded:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1371728823

thasac 06-20-2013 07:57 AM

That OEM manifold design makes me feel bad about my greddy ... as if I already wasn't ashamed.

turbofan 06-20-2013 08:22 AM

I'm guessing the rust is because Michigan. That's just how it is up there.

I am also puzzled at the teeny turbos because smaller turbos actually hurt fuel economy.

When accelerating moderately it hurts economy to have boost. When cruising, you want minimum restriction for best economy. So the tiny turbo produced unneeded boost at lower throttle openings and unneeded restriction at cruising speeds. No wonder these little turbo motors never really achieve the fuel economy numbers projected.

Changing to a larger turbo on my old XR4Ti with no other changes netted me at least 3 mpg increase due to the reasons stated above.

Ryan_G 06-20-2013 08:33 AM

They are tiny because people do not like/can't handle turbo lag of any kind. Most people also do not rev cars higher than 4.5k rpm and that is when bigger turbos just start to get into their powerband.

Braineack 06-20-2013 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 1023383)
I am also puzzled at the teeny turbos because smaller turbos actually hurt fuel economy.


closed loop.


but also those turbos are pretty transparent. I drove a Sonata 2.0t the other day and I could barely tell it was turbocharged, peak tq is like 2000rpm.


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