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Old 06-19-2013, 08:25 PM   #1
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This is mounted to a 2013 ford fusion eco boost 2.0l. Look at that turbine!
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I see nothing but failure.

(edit for explanation: he forgot to post the image the first time around. It's now fixed.)

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It's so small you can't even see the picture.
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It's so small you can't even see the picture.
What is this, a turbo for ants?
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Techsalvager probably busted a nut over that turbo
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Techsalvager probably busted a nut over that turbo
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Why is a 2013 rusting already. I have no rust on my '93 miata.
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dat rust
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Reminds me of ford mustangs. Pull off the lot, days later rusted rearend
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What is this, a turbo for ants?
Lol, easy Zoolander!
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Lol, easy Zoolander!
I can't resist.

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Old 06-19-2013, 10:29 PM   #13
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But why small turbos?
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It had 9800 miles on it.

I think most people that buy ford passenger cars would rather have instant response vs lag and topend. Also, I may be wrong on this, but I think more fuel is wasted trying to get up to speed than cruising so a quick spooling mini turbo helps with fuel economy too.

In saying that,

That thing is micro *****. I would be ashamed to be in possession of said turbo.
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it's a fusion. most people want smooth power delivery and low end torque, coupled iwth good fuel economy. hence an inline 4 with tiny terbo.
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Yeah tiny turbos are all the rave:

this is the ABARTH:



I remember thinking the diameter is about my silver dollar nipple size. (I realize I could have said just silver dollar size.)




Turbo on the Sonic:


this is a 1.4L that barely makes 100hp.


Ford ECOBOOST turbos:



built into the manifold:


Note that the wastegate is normally open and the wastegate uses vacuum to pull it closed. I also remember the turbo/manifold thing being bolted onto the motor kinda like a subaru up-pipe where there was just one exhaust outlet.




another ford ecoboost:



hey look, a silicone drain hose.






And finally, these are instruction on how to use a manual transmission, incase the ABARTH couldn't be more retarded:
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That OEM manifold design makes me feel bad about my greddy ... as if I already wasn't ashamed.
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I'm guessing the rust is because Michigan. That's just how it is up there.

I am also puzzled at the teeny turbos because smaller turbos actually hurt fuel economy.

When accelerating moderately it hurts economy to have boost. When cruising, you want minimum restriction for best economy. So the tiny turbo produced unneeded boost at lower throttle openings and unneeded restriction at cruising speeds. No wonder these little turbo motors never really achieve the fuel economy numbers projected.

Changing to a larger turbo on my old XR4Ti with no other changes netted me at least 3 mpg increase due to the reasons stated above.
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They are tiny because people do not like/can't handle turbo lag of any kind. Most people also do not rev cars higher than 4.5k rpm and that is when bigger turbos just start to get into their powerband.
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I am also puzzled at the teeny turbos because smaller turbos actually hurt fuel economy.

closed loop.


but also those turbos are pretty transparent. I drove a Sonata 2.0t the other day and I could barely tell it was turbocharged, peak tq is like 2000rpm.
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