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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by FoundSoul
That's the perfect position... just before the throttle body...
Would fitting a dump valve opposite my IAT sensor have any adverse effects?
Old Apr 22, 2008 | 01:37 PM
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Hey sorry to bring back an old thread but I'm trying to figure out where to put my IAT sensor when I install my new MS. There's a comment here about 'assuming your not supercharged'. Can anyone explain this?

I have a 95 and am currently running an Eaton M45 S/C. The car came this way and it's my intent to install / learn / tune the MS this year and then go turbo with (probably) a BEGI setup next year.

So with a S/C where's the best place for the IAT without tapping the intake mani? BTW - I have the plastic crossover tube.
Old Apr 22, 2008 | 01:48 PM
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It needs to measure actual air temp as it enters the intake. So after the SC and if you were to have an IC then after the IC. Since you don't.... it needs to be after the SC so it's reading the temp of the SC heated air as it enters the engine and can account for that properly. If it's a plastic tube... um... JB weld a bung to it maybe? A metal tube you can weld a bung to. But that's where it needs to be or you'll have issues.
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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Thanks! As I thought. So I can just do as richard_ha did in the photo above but just before (or in) the dummy TB.
I plan to try out water injection too. I assume this won't be an issue for the IAT sensor in any way as long as the water is atomized in the crossover tube before it hits the sensor?
My pre-built MS is on the way! What exactly do I need to order from DIY for MAF deletion? It's not coming with the IAT sensor, is that all I need? Which one, the one with the pigtail I assume?
Old Apr 22, 2008 | 02:39 PM
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GM IAT. The MS has a MAP sensor in it. Just run a vacuum line to it.

You'll want the open element one, and a bung to weld it in.

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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/m...ung-p-155.html
Old Apr 22, 2008 | 03:13 PM
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Excellent. Exactly the info I needed.

Hey richard_ha...if you happen to see this, how did you secure your IAT?
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by richard_ha
Would fitting a dump valve opposite my IAT sensor have any adverse effects?
Anyone know the answer to this?
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by kenzo42
Anyone know the answer to this?
I doubt there would be enough issues to matter. If the sensor can measure the temp of the air coming into the intake then it should be fine. Air escaping out the BOV shouldn't make that big a difference. Maybe if it leaked at idle and caused a 10* change for some reason you could have issues. Not like you couldn't tune for that though.
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Ben
I doubt you'll be able to tap an IC pipe. There's not enough thickness.
You just aren't baller enough. I tapped my IC pipe, no problems. I used JBweld to seal it up afterwards, though.

(don't do that.)
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 05:23 AM
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FYI, NPT is measured differently than bolts and ****..
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Originally Posted by Savington
You just aren't baller enough. I tapped my IC pipe, no problems. I used JBweld to seal it up afterwards, though.

(don't do that.)
Why not do it right before the throttle body? Piping there vs. the IC piping would seem best to me.

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Old Apr 23, 2008 | 10:25 AM
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The BOV across from the IAT/MAT should be fine, it's venting air out and not in as long as it's functioning properly, and when the BOV is open you're not under load, again assuming it's functioning properly.

On plastic pipe... um... either epoxy a bung to it, or I've actually heard of people drilling a hole, and putting the bung INSIDE and threading the sensor through the hole into the bung holding it in place. But that's usually the ghetto o2 sensor mount and I don't think I'd do it on an IAT as it would be really ghetto and dangerous if it came loose. Not to mention hard to seal up under boost.

Really the best answer may be incorporating some aluminum pipe...
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