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Old 11-18-2013, 02:10 PM
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the picture you posted was a 94-97 MAF connector, not a 90-93 AFM connector...

that was reading fine, and wasn't the issue. it's all in fuel tuning right now.



do what i said, half the req_fuel value in there right now and just see what happens.



and again: is this a DIYPNP or a MSPNP2?
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All this megasquirt frustration and not being able to find any answers has me fed up to the point where I'm either A. Gonna part this car out..... Or B trade my megasquirt for someone's vortech fmu setup and
Call it a day.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
the picture you posted was a 94-97 MAF connector, not a 90-93 AFM connector...

that was reading fine, and wasn't the issue. it's all in fuel tuning right now.



do what i said, half the req_fuel value in there right now and just see what happens.
I did that still doesn't start. Is there anyway you can look at the link for my tune file that I posted and go over it?
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i did, and i didnt see anything that stood out.


i also asked things about your vtps and specific megasquirt...
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Originally Posted by Braineack
i did, and i didnt see anything that stood out.


i also asked things about your vtps and specific megasquirt...
My specific megasquirt is DIY pnp v2 and my tps is a e30 tps of some sort..... I calibrated it and all.
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I just don't understand what could be going wrong here if the stock ecu has the ability to fire right up and idle but the megasquirt can't do that with all the settings set correctly from DIY auto tune.... Something here is wrong..... I'll go over my timing again! Then I'll pull and test each wire for spark using test mode... And I'll do the same with injectors..... And if all is good then in out of ideas here guys...
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It's probably your timing, adjust it in MS or by hand. Trial and error. Megasquirts should come with replacement starter motors lol
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it could be anything. it's happened to all of us.

who built the MS?
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Originally Posted by slammedkouki
I just don't understand what could be going wrong here if the stock ecu has the ability to fire right up and idle
Did you post a short vid of your car on facebook on 11/15 trying to idle with the stock ECU?
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Originally Posted by bahurd
Did you post a short vid of your car on facebook on 11/15 trying to idle with the stock ECU?
YEPP THATS ME
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Originally Posted by Braineack
it could be anything. it's happened to all of us.

who built the MS?
Tadd bailey... Member on here REDTURBOMIATA
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Originally Posted by vitamin j
It's probably your timing, adjust it in MS or by hand. Trial and error. Megasquirts should come with replacement starter motors lol
AGREED on Starter motors LOL. But I have a timing light on her and shes perfect STOCK timing!
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Originally Posted by slammedkouki
YEPP THATS ME
Your car barely could idle and REALLY rich. Not what I'd call 'idles on the stock ecu".

Like Brain says, you gotta get your fuel inline before it'll start. Maybe you should reload the base tune and ONLY screw with the req_fuel.
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Originally Posted by bahurd
Your car barely could idle and REALLY rich. Not what I'd call 'idles on the stock ecu".

Like Brain says, you gotta get your fuel inline before it'll start. Maybe you should reload the base tune and ONLY screw with the req_fuel.
well what did you think it was gonna act like on a stock ecu with 440cc injectors, and a full turbo kit, with no maf, and a ait sensor.....
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Originally Posted by slammedkouki
well what did you think it was gonna act like on a stock ecu with 440cc injectors, and a full turbo kit, with no maf, and a ait sensor.....
Well... good luck to you then!
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Originally Posted by bahurd
Well... good luck to you then!
not trying to be a dick im just extremely frustrated
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timing was a tooth off when i just checked..... **** hopefully after i fix this she will stay running.
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Originally Posted by slammedkouki
AGREED on Starter motors LOL. But I have a timing light on her and shes perfect STOCK timing!
I meant ignition timing. Change your trigger angle in MS or adjust the CAS. No wait, read the manual.
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We put the engine in time last time and didnt turn it over a few times to make sure the slack didnt change the engine timing.... We just assumed it was right.... it was off a tooth when we just checked. With that said is this where It has to be at this bottom pulley? WITH EVERYTHING LINED UP IN THE TRIANGLE UPSTAIRS and downstairs....

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Originally Posted by vitamin j
I meant ignition timing. Change your trigger angle in MS or adjust the CAS. No wait, read the manual.
I knew what you meant but we thought we should check overall timing belt timing... thats where a big problem was...
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