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Old 04-01-2008, 01:28 AM   #1
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I started the install today. I installed the EBC and I jumpered the fuel pump. I hooked up my LC-1 and moved its grounds to the harness. I built the IAT harness, but didn't install it because my TB pipe is still being welded up.

I figure hell, try and fire it up. I crank, nothing. I thought maybe it needs the IAT to run, so I plug it in. Crank, nothing. I'm thinking I messed something up, after a good 15 minutes of searching I discover......I didn't hook up the vacuum line for the MAP sensor. I felt really dumb, I was so excited to ditch the AFM that I forgot to buy the vacuum line. Oh well, theres tommorow.

Anyway, I need clarification on a few things.

1. When I flash files I need to unplug the coils. That is just the one plastic clip? I know this sounds dumb, but it's driving me nuts second guessing myself.

2. The jumper on the boot pin for the MS. What is this?

Hopefully my next post will be that it is in and running. Then it is off to the dyno for tuning.
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Old 04-01-2008, 02:02 AM   #2
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The ignitors are just that one plastic clip on the passenger side of the engine bay.

The boot jumper is just to the left of the chip (the side of the DB9 serial cable connector). It is two tiny holes on the PCB board, midway up the chip I believe, right above the proto area
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1. Yes, when you reflash firmware, unplug the coils. Yes, the plastic clip that you can actually remove, not the two in the back. Check out the MSPNP install instructions; there's an actual photo of this. If you're nervous, just use your stim to reflash.

2. Boot jumper holes? Should be empty. If you do a fresh firmware flash, you'll need a boot jumper, sometimes, as instructed. Make sure you never remove the boot jumper while powered.
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Ok thanks. I figured that was the plug, I just needed to make sure. I will go look at the PNP manual. I just wanted to know where the boot jumper was in case I ever needed it. I'll keep in mind where it is.
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The ignitor itself is labeled as a power transistor. It's got a Mitsubishi logo on it.
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1. you shouldn't need to flash it, but yes it sits on the passenger side shock, flat black plastic guy.

2. you wont need a boot jumper unless you completely wipe the existing firmware and try to reflash...
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I know. I just want to make sure I know as much as possible about setting it up. If in the future I need to, at least now I know how.
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It's good to know. I accidentally corrupted mine while burning some changes to the VE table. It became corrupted enough that it wouldn't run and I couldn't reflash it without putting the boot jumper in. Luckily I had a screwdriver and paperclip with me.
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It's good to know. I accidentally corrupted mine while burning some changes to the VE table. It became corrupted enough that it wouldn't run and I couldn't reflash it without putting the boot jumper in. Luckily I had a screwdriver and paperclip with me.
how did you corrupt it?
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Actually I was loading an msq file after running VE analyzer. Every time I load one, it glitches while loading, cutting fuel for a millisecond and causing revs to drop at idle. This time I got moving again before it finished loading and it died, I tried starting it right after it died, which cut power to MS, causing it to become corrupt.
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Well, it's in. But it won't start. The only thing that jumped out at me was my middle LED is not on. It cranks, and I even got a backfire out of it. A few times it has wanted to start, but it won't.

I'm searching around right now, any ideas?
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backfire = too much fuel.

needs to lower cranking pws.

try this:

-40 6.1
-20 5.7
0 5.2
20 4.6
40 4.1
60 3.7
80 3.2
100 2.6
130 2.1
160 1.9

this assumes you are running those 550s. also make sure 5.6 is used for req_fuel.
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Sorry forgot to mention I'm not using the 550's yet. Still the stock ones. Should I pop the 550's in with those settings?

I copied those numbers down for when I put them in, thanks.
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what numbers were there? it may have already been loaded with a map for the 550s....
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Damn it, killed the battery. I think one of two things are wrong. Either the injector size is wrong, or my timing is wrong. I have my base timing retarded because of the Greddy kit, does the MS know that?

Thanks for the help. I'm going to try and work on it tonight, but the weather isn't helping.
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**** I hate serial ports. No matter how many different ways or computers I tried my usb-serial adapter no computer would find it.

My old Compaq has a serial port on it. Has a symbol like |O|O| on it. If I just get a serial cable will I need any adapters or drivers or any of that BS? This is just like my EMB, I can't connect to it after the first time.
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You'll be golden without drivers if you've got a direct serial connection like that.
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Is it just a normal male to female cable?
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Yup
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I'll go get one tommorow.

On a side note, now only my right LED is on. Also, the fan is always on with the key. My left LED was on before, it was dim but on. Something not right?
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