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GT3man2001 06-08-2009 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 416858)
Can you guys without problems tell us how fast you're going? Compare to SM lap times. The fast Cali track cars are going between 6 and 9 seconds faster than SMs at every track.

Wish I could, but our local track is actually a large go-kart track and there's no SM lap times to compare. I am within a few seconds of the lap record for Miata's if that's means anything. (with less suspension mods)

Savington 06-08-2009 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 416947)
Does it seem that the FM provided studs and nuts don't have the problem and BEGI's do?

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I don't believe the "longer on the loud pedal, faster driver" theory. A setup with 2* less timing and slower driver would have higher EGTs, and a slower driver on a track with a longer straight would stand on the gas longer than Sav.

I've seen FM hardware have the same problems.

I made my speed comment because I've seen a direct correlation between the speed of the turbo car and the occurrence of this issue. The guys who do 1-2 track days a year, full-weight street cars on street tires, never have a problem. The guys who are on r-comps, doing 6+ events a year, and actually going fast, have the problem. I recall VagaXT commenting on how he never had the problem, and then he showed up to Streets in December with NT-01s, laid down some stupid fast laps - and struggled all day long with nuts and studs backing out.

GT3man2001 06-08-2009 06:53 PM

Maybe has something to do with all of the weight hanging off that side of the motor, and the extra G-forces that the race cars are pulling?

hustler 06-08-2009 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by GT3man2001 (Post 417153)
Maybe has something to do with all of the weight hanging off that side of the motor, and the extra G-forces that the race cars are pulling?

or maybe you're just driving like a pussy. Seriously. Do you go out there for blood or to cruise around and "have fun"? I go to the track because my mother never loved me and I never met my father, and now you have to fucking respect me or I'll wear your face as a fucking mask.

thesnowboarder 06-08-2009 09:09 PM

I never had any problems till i got close to spec miata lap times. Then i blew my motor :(

spoolin2bars 06-08-2009 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 417199)
or maybe you're just driving like a pussy. Seriously. Do you go out there for blood or to cruise around and "have fun"? I go to the track because my mother never loved me and I never met my father, and now you have to fucking respect me or I'll wear your face as a fucking mask.

mmmmm......blood!

GT3man2001 06-08-2009 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 417199)
or maybe you're just driving like a pussy. Seriously. Do you go out there for blood or to cruise around and "have fun"? I go to the track because my mother never loved me and I never met my father, and now you have to fucking respect me or I'll wear your face as a fucking mask.

No reason to go for blood, it's not a race. And the car is my daily as well, can't break it.

hustler 06-08-2009 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by GT3man2001 (Post 417230)
No reason to go for blood, it's not a race. And the car is my daily as well, can't break it.

We're driving our cars differently...that's why your hardware hasn't failed.

crashnscar 06-09-2009 01:21 AM


Originally Posted by GT3man2001 (Post 417230)
No reason to go for blood, it's not a race. And the car is my daily as well, can't break it.

AKA you are slow.

GT3man2001 06-09-2009 01:51 AM

Hardly.

Savington 06-09-2009 03:17 AM

You said you were within 3 seconds of the GJMS record, which was (I presume) set by one of the FM cars. I don't want to sound like a dick here, but I know how fast I am in comparison to the cars that are 3 seconds ahead of you. I came very close to rear-ending the fuck out of the Westfield exiting turn 6 at Laguna in March. I don't think there was an FM car within 5 seconds of me.

3 seconds on a 1-minute track puts you around 10-12 seconds slower than the cars we are talking about here. Certainly a respectable time, but not really on the same page as the cars we are discussing here.

dc2696 06-09-2009 09:08 AM

Since I haven't tracked this year yet I'll use my last years experience.

My manifold is a custom 45deg/topmount SS log, 3" SS downpipe, no gaskets, no leaks(machined flanges) with a 2871 and I was using shitty bolts everywhere.

I was shearing studs like I was cutting disco in 79', winning or in the top 3 at every track event up here (I know that's not saying much really), so I beat the piss out of the car quite often but I'm sure my problem was my exhaust system and the amount of pressure/weight that was acting on the turbo system.

The exhaust is a full 3" system with magnaflow muffler (mild steel), has a flex pipe right after the dp and weight to much imo.

I eventually broke the weld and the turbo inlet flange right in half after I sheared two bolts and keep going, vibrations ftl.

This year I'm running a v-band at the dp-exhaust system, arp bolts, and I'm rehanging the exhaust and using different hangers (rubber garabage sucked and move to much) and that should fix my issue, I hope.


-Dean

GT3man2001 06-09-2009 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 417301)
3 seconds on a 1-minute track puts you around 10-12 seconds slower than the cars we are talking about here. Certainly a respectable time, but not really on the same page as the cars we are discussing here.

That was also last year, on my old suspension and 195 Hankooks.

Haven't run this year yet with the new turbo setup, MS, coilovers and 225 hankooks. I'm going to guess I could pick up at least a second. We'll see...

Gotpsi? 06-09-2009 01:19 PM

Hey Sav speaking of the Streets, are you going on the 19Th? is anyone else going on the 19Th?

Savington 06-09-2009 03:19 PM

I don't know when my next event is going to be. The new build is taking much longer than anticipated. July? :(

levnubhin 06-09-2009 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 417450)
I don't know when my next event is going to be. The new build is taking much longer than anticipated. July? :(


Still waiting on details of new build. :bigtu:
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Savington 06-09-2009 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by Phillatio (Post 417453)
Still waiting on details of new build. :bigtu:

blahhhahhahaboahlbhablhablahb fine i'll go make a thread.

hustler 06-09-2009 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 417450)
I don't know when my next event is going to be. The new build is taking much longer than anticipated. July? :(

waaaa waaaa waaaaa.

Savington 06-09-2009 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 417473)
waaaa waaaa waaaaa.

Just in time to drive out to Texas and shit on your chest, Mr. Backmarker.

y8s 06-09-2009 07:56 PM

oh shit son, I might have to drive out to texas just to see this cleveland steamer. how many miles is that? 24 hours of le moans.


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