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Chiburbian 09-24-2015 03:25 PM

If this turns out well I will be selling my NB and buying a PRHT Club edition as soon as I possibly can.

FAB 09-24-2015 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by ihiryu (Post 1269458)
Have you guys looked into the ECUMasters ECU? Or the DET3?

We have not, the solution we'll be using is very a comprehensive solution using the stock ECU. The plan is to run a hybrid MAF/MAP configuration to keep perfect drivability in the off boost and transitional periods, then utilize the accuracy of a MAP sensor in higher load areas of the tune. Impressively, this can all be done with the factory ECU.

ihiryu 09-24-2015 06:34 PM

Very nice! I wasn't aware. I've always hated NC's but after this thread....I find them a bit more attractive.

FAB 09-25-2015 01:41 PM

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Just a quick update - we're testing some end tank designs on the Vibrant core. Should have a finalized setup this weekend. The production version will include internal baffling for even distribution of air (often a fault of top inlet/outlet intercoolers).

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1443202912

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There has been a lot of chatter around pricing and we're confident it will still remain at a competitive price point. I'd like to outline that the most expensive (and most important) part of the system is the EFR turbocharger itself. This is a bit like shopping for a PC, you'll pay more for a powerful processor but I assure you, you wont regret it.

FAB 10-08-2015 05:47 PM

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Small update - Things with the machine shop have been further delayed but we aren't letting that hold us back. We are producing a few of our own to cover the pre-production kits.

This is just the Water Jet blank that will be setup on the CNC tonight for the 3D/2.5D features of the design.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1444340834

A quick shot of the turbo comparison - Left: EFR 6758, Right: GT30R
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1444340834

Two more customers were added to the pre-production list and our latest BorgWarner order showed up today - 6x 6758's ready to make some very powerful NC's.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1444340834

Rallas 10-09-2015 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by FAB (Post 1268989)


Can you post a picture looking straight down the core to show the additional fins or turbulators? Thanks

psyber_0ptix 10-09-2015 02:02 PM

I wouldn't mind a 500hp intercooler for an NA with AC. But this is cool too I guess

FAB 10-13-2015 11:18 AM

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It came out just as beautiful as we anticipated.. 10 more on the way and we will have a completed, repeatable manifold this week.

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FAB 10-16-2015 10:37 AM

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With the completion of the flanges, we're pulling 10 hour days to satisfy the donor vehicle deadline. Quickly following that, our bone stock NC will be used for pre-production sold kits and jigging. Each will be jigged to ensure compatibility between the 2.0 and 2.5 swapped vehicles, if we see major differences we will make adjustments accordingly.

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To maintain what we believe is a great online shopping experience we will be making some rather serious structural changes to the webstore. There will now be a dedicated menu system for NA/NB/NC/ND, starting with the NC.

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FAB 10-27-2015 04:38 PM

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After determining proper placement we're now full speed ahead! - Spending enough time with eyes on this setup, it's incredible that we were able to achieve clearance in EVERY dimension without modification to the vehicle or sacrificing the design. The last thing we want is to ask an end user to trim their engine bay, grind their engine mounts or bend lines (nearly all of these were done during the installation of this previous turbo kit, and it was still hitting the engine mounts).

As stated before the most important aspects of this manifold were to achieve a full flowing collector and zero awkward kinks in the schedule elbows. CHECK. These limitations left us with a very unique piece of artwork that will flow just as good as it looks.

Keep in mind this piece is only tacked up - none of the colorful tig welding magic has happened yet but we're thrilled to be able to update you soon.

We've modified the flange to allow easy installation with the studs installed. You can see here the far stud location is now open:

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sixshooter 10-27-2015 07:10 PM

Arousing. And I don't even like NCs.

psyber_0ptix 10-27-2015 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by Rallas (Post 1273754)
Can you post a picture looking straight down the core to show the additional fins or turbulators? Thanks

This would be great to see. I haven't purchased a vibrant cored intercooler yet since there seems to be no evidence of their 25% increase in fin density. Staggered turbulators would make me buy in a heartbeat

turbofan 10-27-2015 07:22 PM

I'm starting to like NCs. Wow this is excellent.

Great work.

FAB 10-28-2015 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix (Post 1279049)
This would be great to see. I haven't purchased a vibrant cored intercooler yet since there seems to be no evidence of their 25% increase in fin density. Staggered turbulators would make me buy in a heartbeat

Just putting together another one now - I was able to snap a quick shot for you guys - looks like every 7-10mm the turbulators are indeed staggered.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1446057929

Mazduh 10-28-2015 02:52 PM

Boner alert... What am I doing with my life?

psyber_0ptix 10-28-2015 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by FAB (Post 1279236)
Just putting together another one now - I was able to snap a quick shot for you guys - looks like every 7-10mm the turbulators are indeed staggered.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1446057929

Thanks for the photo, if this is what the cores are now for the prebuilt units, I'm stoked to place an order. I'll send you a PM shortly

Jeffbucc 10-28-2015 08:28 PM

The core density looks better than mine, which I believe is the previous rendition, so that is my 2 cents. Keep up the good work, you are making me very jealous.

FAB 10-28-2015 08:42 PM

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This is where the details matter and a good reflection of where your money goes when you invest in our kit over the competitors. We've taken our time producing a jig for the manifold to make these units identical, repeatable, properly backpurged and PRECISE!

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1446079364

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Rallas 10-29-2015 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by FAB (Post 1279236)
Just putting together another one now - I was able to snap a quick shot for you guys - looks like every 7-10mm the turbulators are indeed staggered.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1446057929

Nice! Thanks for the pic. Do you know if this new core design has trickled down to the smaller Vibrant Stage 1 intercooler yet?

albuquerquefx 10-29-2015 01:15 PM

Brian,

Everything you've posted is absolutely gorgeous. I'm quite literally saddened that all of this incredibly beautiful work will be hidden under a hood. My father-in-law and two brothers-in-law are genuine car guys, and I've been forwarding your pics along to them. They're all amazed at the attention to detail and fabrication skills involved.

Father in law has a 68 Stingray convertable, younger brother-in-law has a hopped up STI, and older brother in law has an LS-swapped 90's 3-series frankenstein of some sort. All three are now chomping at the bit to come down and drive the Miata when it's done :D


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