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Old 05-19-2015, 06:24 PM   #521
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I just want to buy to the product when it's available
Rest assured that I'm not egotistical or stupid enough to restrict my product offerings based on the props system on an internet forum. You and anyone else who wants one will be able to purchase one.
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I really like that there are more options for EFR now. You should consider a TS manifold since nobody else is making them. I'd do so many things for a TS 7163 and manifold. Sadly nobody local does much shop work anymore for manifolds.
Buy 2 and I'll send you one back with a TS manifold
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Old 05-19-2015, 06:56 PM   #523
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Rest assured that if you ask for props, you will surely be dealt negative props. (though this time I did not contribute).

anyhow, still really excited for this. We don't have group buy pricing that I simply missed, right?
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Grown men? Good joke. There is no competition for props. Props are awarded when you contribute in a good way to the community. When you detract from the community props dare subtracted. Never once have I asked for props.

Can I have props?
Sorry that my opinion and disagreement with what someone else said lead you to believe that I detracted from the community I'll be sure not to do that anymore, and no one ever accused you of asking for props I was just making a statement that I though it was dumb that someone would suggest only opening a group buy to people based on props and number of post, because I have a low number of post and now negative props, but doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to buy something I'm interested in and willing to spend the money on
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do you guys know what a joke is?
my goodness, relax.
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Sorry that my opinion and disagreement with what someone else said lead you to believe that I detracted from the community I'll be sure not to do that anymore, and no one ever accused you of asking for props I was just making a statement that I though it was dumb that someone would suggest only opening a group buy to people based on props and number of post, because I have a low number of post and now negative props, but doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to buy something I'm interested in and willing to spend the money on
Oops, that came off a lot more serious that I meant it too. Rarely am I actually serious online.
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Now that we've all touched ***** and bonded over it, can the discussion get back on topic?
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Yes, I have an actual question. In the past we've seen blown stock blocks with just wastegate efr pressure. Thoughts on this? Was it had tuning? Do you expect to easily stay under stock rod limits with this kit or is it assumed it will be going on a built motor.
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I really like that there are more options for EFR now. You should consider a TS manifold since nobody else is making them. I'd do so many things for a TS 7163 and manifold. Sadly nobody local does much shop work anymore for manifolds.
A twin-scroll EFR manifold isn't on the horizon for us. The investment required to make a cast manifold feasible requires broad market appeal, and I've yet to see even a single 7163-powered Miata.

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anyhow, still really excited for this. We don't have group buy pricing that I simply missed, right?
Nothing firm, but the ballpark is $500ish. (e: for the manifold only)

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Yes, I have an actual question. In the past we've seen blown stock blocks with just wastegate efr pressure. Thoughts on this? Was it had tuning? Do you expect to easily stay under stock rod limits with this kit or is it assumed it will be going on a built motor.
I'm developing the full kit (oil/water lines, IC kit, etc) on a stock-motor NB2. I'll probably start at 8psi just to get an idea of the minimum limits of the turbo, and I'm not expecting to frag the stock shortblock at 8psi with a conservative timing map.

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500 for manifold? Or mani+dp?
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500 for manifold? Or mani+dp?
Manifold only. The downpipe will add a few hundred dollars to that, but final pricing isn't firm on that yet.
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do you guys know what a joke is?
my goodness, relax.
Thank you 18, im glad someone got it.

Seriously, what is wrong with you people
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Now that we've all touched ***** and bonded over it, can the discussion get back on topic?
Only if you post more pics.

...of the manifolds, just so we are clear here. I don't need another inbox full of wiener pics.
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Pricing seems completely fair for manifold only.
In for baller status.
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Yes, I have an actual question. In the past we've seen blown stock blocks with just wastegate efr pressure. Thoughts on this? Was it had tuning? Do you expect to easily stay under stock rod limits with this kit or is it assumed it will be going on a built motor.
So you remember that really sad dyno I posted of like 250hp on a low reading dynapack with the 6758? It turns out not only was that just straight 7psi wastegate can, I had literally zero preload on it, which resulted in 12psi at peak power. And I found that said can and preload with the boost reference disconnected (severed, oops) it just blows the wastegate open with exhaust pressure and makes 13.5psi which is ~260 on a mustang dyno. Moral of the story, good luck keeping it to like 8psi to not blow up a stock block. Might be a slight bit easier with the 6258.
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So you remember that really sad dyno I posted of like 250hp on a low reading dynapack with the 6758? It turns out not only was that just straight 7psi wastegate can, I had literally zero preload on it, which resulted in 12psi at peak power. And I found that said can and preload with the boost reference disconnected (severed, oops) it just blows the wastegate open with exhaust pressure and makes 13.5psi which is ~260 on a mustang dyno. Moral of the story, good luck keeping it to like 8psi to not blow up a stock block. Might be a slight bit easier with the 6258.
Hence my question.
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210wtq, 11.5psi:

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Lol, low boost, high boost, oops.

The way you kept the plots lined up until target boost is gorgeous. Nice work from a very capable turbo.
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The way you kept the plots lined up until target boost is gorgeous. Nice work from a very capable turbo.
That's not my car or my setup, it's HHammerly's car/setup. It's just an example of an EFR making stable boost and <220wtq.
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That's not my car or my setup, it's HHammerly's car/setup. It's just an example of an EFR making stable boost and <220wtq.
Isnt Hammerly the guy that blew up his stock engine with that low boost tune?
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Isnt Hammerly the guy that blew up his stock engine with that low boost tune?
No, he isn't. Please stop stating your misconceptions as fact in this thread. It's very confusing.

He bought a car with a blown motor and rebuilt it. His build thread is here: https://www.miataturbo.net/build-thr...t-build-77297/
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