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Old 05-10-2012, 12:20 AM   #41
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As someone who just wants a kit to bolt on and 'forget' that it is there, how would you say this compares to the FMII ? So far, I've read that is the go to kit that is complete and comes with legendary FM customer service.

Why would i guy like me, give you $6k for a kit without the FM 'pedigree' if you will? Especially when their kit is cheaper in both the hardware only config ( $3k ) vs the $3900 you stated earlier.

I WANT to consider your kit over the FM, especially because I am only a couple hours away from you and would be willing to lend my car (94') as a test mule if I could get a nice discount

Sincerely,

a fellow 805er

Also, if this kit was purchased, and you LATER got a CARB certificate, in theory, would one be able to get the needed parts to go pass the sniffer every 2 years? Its a hassle here in Cali for us with street cars.

Also, the stock 220ish that this kit makes... this is totally safe for our stock 1.8s ?

Or is this severely reducing engine life? Ive got a healthy 90k miles on my car, and I'd hate to blow that up unnecessarily.

Thanks and I look forward to hearing more news about this kit.

PM me if you need that mule
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Why would i guy like me, give you $6k for a kit without the FM 'pedigree' if you will? Especially when their kit is cheaper in both the hardware only config ( $3k ) vs the $3900 you stated earlier.
because the stuff FM offers is no where near what this kit promises to be. if you have to ask this question, maybe you SHOULD buy the FMII kit.

my only question is how you guys will address the EFR shortage?
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As someone who just wants a kit to bolt on and 'forget' that it is there, how would you say this compares to the FMII ? So far, I've read that is the go to kit that is complete and comes with legendary FM customer service.

Why would i guy like me, give you $6k for a kit without the FM 'pedigree' if you will? Especially when their kit is cheaper in both the hardware only config ( $3k ) vs the $3900 you stated earlier.
Simple - our kits are better. Better turbo, better downpipe, better manifold, better standard-equipment turbo studs. Our kits are designed and built to be used on a race track, and since we've been racing turbocharged Miatas for years (Theseus is the fastest turbocharged Miata in the country today) we know how to build a kit that will withstand the kind of abuse we put our cars through every weekend.

We have a lot of respect for FM here, and we consider them the shop to beat in this market, but we wouldn't be producing this kit if we weren't damn sure we could do a better job than they do.

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Also, if this kit was purchased, and you LATER got a CARB certificate, in theory, would one be able to get the needed parts to go pass the sniffer every 2 years? Its a hassle here in Cali for us with street cars.
No way for me to conclusively answer this, sorry. I won't comment on anything regarding CARB or smog legality.

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Also, the stock 220ish that this kit makes... this is totally safe for our stock 1.8s ?

Or is this severely reducing engine life? Ive got a healthy 90k miles on my car, and I'd hate to blow that up unnecessarily.
It won't severely reduce engine life, no. A 220whp stock-block car will last just as long as it otherwise would on the street. On the track, the life does go down a bit - we typically expect to get around 40 events out of a naturally aspirated motor before it starts to show excessive leakdown and oil consumption, and I would expect a factory motor at 220whp to get to ~25-30 events before the same thing appears.

Of course, the kit is capable of 300whp with nothing more than a new fuel rail and a fuel pump, should you decide to order up one of our Turbo-spec forged bottom ends.
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my only question is how you guys will address the EFR shortage?
I probably have more info regarding that shortage than most of the national BW distributors do. We're keeping a close eye on it, and we will adjust our schedule accordingly so that it doesn't hold us up.
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Who is building the manifolds for your kits? Will they be an equal length design, or low mount axial?
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Thanks for the response Savington, I look forward to seeing what happens with this.

Id love to support a local guy.
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Sav, what are the exhaust options going to be for the kit? Is a high flow cat going to be an option?
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Who is building the manifolds for your kits? Will they be an equal length design, or low mount axial?
Sch40 304SS tubular, with an emphasis on low volume for improved response. The kit will fit A/C and P/S, so it's a side/top hybrid mount.

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Sav, what are the exhaust options going to be for the kit? Is a high flow cat going to be an option?
3" downpipe will be standard. We have not quite finalized the exact downpipe configuration or not - we may have the rear-most section of the downpipe swap out for use with a stock exhaust or a 3" exhaust, or we may require the use of a 2.5" or 3" aftermarket exhaust. There will be no cat option - if you want a cat, you'll have to source it yourself.

In general, there will be no options available on our kits - what you see in the standard parts list will be what comes in every single box. This reduces shipping delays, eliminates shipping/order errors, and streamlines tech support significantly on our end, and it allows you guys to easily order a kit without fretting over which options you should or shouldn't buy.

If it's in the kit, it needs to be there - if it's not there, it doesn't need to be there. Simple and easy.

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I'll be looking for this kit by Fall 2013. Getting the itch for boost again!
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We aren't ruling it out, but we aren't actively pursuing it at this time.
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Didn't Trackspeed kill off all those people in India last year?
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Lock this thread and don't bump it until you are ready to take my money and send me a super sweet turbo kit.
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Any chance to include your COP setup with this kit? That is, if you still sell them.
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I'm ready to buy. ; ). Sav, how do you plan on handling future revisions to the kit after the customer has purchased? Thanks!
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I'm sure we can hook you up with an ebay manifold.

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Any chance to include your COP setup with this kit? That is, if you still sell them.
We definitely sell them, but will not include it in the kit. If you want the COP kit, just buy it separately.
You can find it here: http://trackspeedengineering.com/sto...-kit-p-28.html

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I'm ready to buy. ; ). Sav, how do you plan on handling future revisions to the kit after the customer has purchased? Thanks!
We don't intend on having or needing any significant revisions once we have the kit for sale; we are making all of those now during the development of the kit. If there happened to be any significant changes to the kit we would have those pieces available for purchase to any previous kit owner.
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I've love to see the wiring harness for sale without the coils :P Of course reasonable price.
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Hey I will hold off my fmII purchase I would like to purchase this all the way from Scotland!!!!!
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So i read on the first page...

blah blah blah, and i quote "....but the major kit components (downpipe, turbo, intercooler, injectors, etc) will be safe to 300whp"

thing is i realize the work in this kit pretty much just started, but what if people (not sayin myself) for what ever reason WANT more than 300whp lets say closer to 400. (i'd be happy with 350 to the wheels)

Will there be any push to see how the manifold will hold up to more HP?
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We won't test the manifold beyond what the 6258 is capable of, no. I have a tenative plan to offer a 500whp-capable EFR7064 kit, but that will be a no A/C, no P/S kit with a price tag closer to $10k, and that's only if the 6258 kits sell well.

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