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EO2K 12-19-2012 08:03 PM

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So I'm digging around online looking for timing data, and I find this:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1355965133

That leads me to this:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1355965133

But it looks like MyLaps only lets you view your personal transponder information once you sign in as a member.

I distinctly remember seeing lap times and lap history for cars via an app on someones Samsung (android?) phone while at the track, but I can't find a public facing source for the data. Is there some NASA Official Results page I'm completely missing that houses this data?

emilio700 12-19-2012 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 960942)

But it looks like MyLaps only lets you view your personal transponder information once you sign in as a member.

I distinctly remember seeing lap times and lap history for cars via an app on someones Samsung (android?) phone while at the track, but I can't find a public facing source for the data. Is there some NASA Official Results page I'm completely missing that houses this data?

Broadcast live on racemonitor but not posted on website unless you own a transponder that was in the race. What do you want to see?

EO2K 12-19-2012 08:19 PM

Um, laptimes? :giggle: I was curious as to the comparisons between similar cars in the different classes, different drivers in the same cars, extrapolating pitstop information... Just statistical nonsense really. I'm stuck at the office for another 2 hours covering for a coworker and I have nothing to do.

That's kinda a bummer that its not publicly posted.

emilio700 12-19-2012 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 960951)
Um, laptimes? :giggle: I was curious as to the comparisons between similar cars in the different classes, different drivers in the same cars, extrapolating pitstop information... Just statistical nonsense really. I'm stuck at the office for another 2 hours covering for a coworker and I have nothing to do.

That's kinda a bummer that its not publicly posted.

Bryan and William are the stats guys. More analysis than I can wrap my head around sometimes. I'll have them email you with a d/l

Handy Man 12-21-2012 01:12 PM

Spotted this article about the competition:

The Quickest Engine Swap You'll Ever See

(although that's FAR from the quickest engine swap I've ever seen)

emilio700 12-21-2012 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by Handy Man (Post 961523)
Spotted this article about the competition:

The Quickest Engine Swap You'll Ever See (although that's FAR from the quickest engine swap I've ever seen)

Our Team 949 Racing volunteer crew swapped engines in Nemo about the same time as CJ Wilsons professional crew, no biggie:)

Efini~FC3S 12-21-2012 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 961566)
Our Team 949 Racing volunteer crew swapped engines in Nemo about the same time as CJ Wilsons professional crew, no biggie:)

Is an engine swap on a 12 year old miata easier than a swap on a MX5?

I don't actually know but in general, newer cars are a much bigger PITA to work on.

Is CJ Wilsons crew really professionals, or are they also volunteers?

Our "professional" crew is generally filled with volunteers who have little hands on experience.

emilio700 12-21-2012 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S (Post 961589)
Is an engine swap on a 12 year old miata easier than a swap on a MX5?

I don't actually know but in general, newer cars are a much bigger PITA to work on.

Is CJ Wilsons crew really professionals, or are they also volunteers?

Our "professional" crew is generally filled with volunteers who have little hands on experience.

Dunno about differences. Both are race cars with no emissions equipment. CJ Wilson Racing is in the business of building and racing cars. That is what they do all year.We sell car parts. Racing is something we do on the side, no sponsors or entities paying us to race. Sorta like the ILX team actually. I dont know who was actually spinning wrenches for CJ at T25 but the organization is not amateur.

bbundy 12-21-2012 06:15 PM

Our crew was made up of a bunch of internet forum guys that had some experience working on their own cars many of them only met in person two days before the event. It was awesome to watch them work all together It looked like they had rehearsed every diagnostic repair and replacement task as a team. I have worked with other people working on their cars and I have a tonne of experiance with just about everything on a miata myself and it rarly jelled that well. Our crew looked like everybody knew each step of the process and what to do next.

jpreston 12-22-2012 04:03 AM

The more I think about my experience crewing at this event, the more I realize that the "people" side was the most difficult/complex part of it. Not because we didn't work well together, but because I'm amazed at how well we did. I'd never done the majority of the jobs that we performed on the cars throughout the weekend (actually, I'd never even touched an NB chassis), but these cars are so simple/intuitive that the mechanical stuff was the easy part for me. Emilio and Tom were the only people I could even say I'd met before the race weekend, and I barely even worked with them during the race. Not only did I only have 2 days to get familiar with each team member and their personal skills/capabilities, but each of those people changed in varying ways over the course of the 25 hours. At 7am sunday morning, some were completely different people than what I'd worked with over the previous 3 days. It was a pretty amazing learning experience!

I think most of the crew members would be surprised at how quiet I am in normal life lol. There were more than a few times when we'd be wrenching and it was relatively silent and I wasn't sure what level of exhaustion each person was at, so I'd just start blabbering every thought that went through my head to try and make sure that we were all on the same page. I was really surprised I hadn't lost my voice by sunday evening lol.

curly 12-22-2012 04:13 AM

So I have a question for y'all. How in the world do you make a diff swap quickly? I've had the fortune of taking mine out 3 times in the last couple months, and the spacer that one of the long bolts pushed up into the PPF makes it damn near impossible to slide the diff assemly towards the driver's side of the car and out of the PPF.

What's your secret?

mr_hyde 12-23-2012 02:59 AM

Savington did a lot of the heavy lifting (sometime literally) on the diff swap. He soaked a brand new team jacket in dead diff oil 2 hours into the race so he gets props for lubing swag. :vash:

I've had my miata down to a bare tub and the motor down to the bare block so I was confident I could fix ANYTHING that broke. I suspect many were in that boat too. The scary thing for me was that I took whole weekends to do some of the things we did in 30 minutes. I'd never done any of this under a time constraint. Brakes? No problem. I've done a few dozen brake jobs on miatas? Add 1,000 degree pads to the equation and the pressure of going a lap down and I am immediately less comfortable.

Jeff and I took turns swapping pads on Crusher the night before qualifying and discussed the best way to swing the caliper, the best channel locks to retract the caliper and a dozen other points. When we had to do it for real, the only thing that went wrong was me melting the sleeve of my brand new team jacket on the rotor as I reached around to squeeze the caliper back.

It was awesome to work with the guys and I'll be there every year 949 campaigns a car or until they ask me to stay home. Next year we need an E0 through E3 sweep with the 4 cars. We can do it! :skid:

Savington 12-23-2012 03:15 AM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 961738)
What's your secret?

1. Remove both long vertical bolts
2. Put the small bolt back into its hole, then take a sledgehammer and strike upwards to knock the splined nut out of the PPF above it
3. Put the small bolt into the other hole and repeat the sledgehammer thing
4. Remove the lower spacer/sleeve with a long screwdriver

Basically, doing a diff fast requires that you do exactly what they explicitly tell you NOT to do in the FSM. :)

webby459 12-24-2012 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 957697)
We won the Thunderhill 25 Hours on Toyo RR's :)

As a side note, there were a lot of teams that really wanted to know which tire we were running. Actually caught one guy in our trailer looking at our tires. Others just wandering into our tent enclosure snooping around. We were shooing people out all week. I at least have the courtesy to stand on the access road and zoom in with my phone when spying ;)

E-can you comment on the longevity of the RR? I'll be running some SCCA enduros next year in an ITB Civic, and I'd like something that'll hold up over a 12hr, if possible. Is the RR the droid I need? I'm assuming the NT01 will still outlast the RR? Choice B would be a street rubber like a Direzza, but I think my team mates will sway me with a little extra cash toward an rcomp.

Congrats on the win. Huge accomplishment in the face of the pro teams.

TheDriver 12-24-2012 10:32 AM

Coming in super late but I wanted to extend a big congrats to team 949 on this victory. Makes me proud to own Miata's and be a part of this forum. I'd like to make it out to Cali some time in the next year and meet some of the hero's on this team in person if I get the chance.

emilio700 12-24-2012 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by webby459 (Post 962160)
E-can you comment on the longevity of the RR? I'll be running some SCCA enduros next year in an ITB Civic, and I'd like something that'll hold up over a 12hr, if possible. Is the RR the droid I need? I'm assuming the NT01 will still outlast the RR? Choice B would be a street rubber like a Direzza, but I think my team mates will sway me with a little extra cash toward an rcomp.

Congrats on the win. Huge accomplishment in the face of the pro teams.

Thanks. The RR is significantly faster than the NT01 and last nearly as long.

Mobius 12-28-2012 03:50 PM

I'm volunteering for 2013 if I can be put to use - unless Ms Mobius has a due date around then, which is a distinct possibility.

neocataboi 01-02-2013 02:40 PM

i'm late to the party. I dont check this forum as much as i used to. I'm mostly on Track HQ nowadays.

it was an awesome experience working and crewing with this team. I'm one of the crew members that works with the team for the full season, and i was impressed with how well everyone got along so quickly. As other have said, i want to give uber props to the mechanics on the team, i have taken my NB completely apart every times, and am still apprehensive about touching anything in the racing environment. It's just soo different when there are time constraints and pressure.

I was one of the Chief Fuelers on the team, i was the one in the bright pink 949Racing sweater, and it was an honor seeing the team meet each other on Thursday, and by Sunday look like we had been working together a whole season. I was bummed for the longest time after the race as i'm not used to making mistakes, as i went two full seasons never having spilled fuel, yet i happened to spill fuel and give Crusher a 5 min penalty. With that said, i'm glad we were still able to walk away with a W.

Manny\Fueler

emilio700 01-02-2013 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by neocataboi (Post 964456)
I was bummed for the longest time after the race as i'm not used to making mistakes, as i went two full seasons never having spilled fuel, yet i happened to spill fuel and give Crusher a 5 min penalty. With that said, i'm glad we were still able to walk away with a W.

Manny\Fueler

To be fair, that was an insufficiently tested and poorly configured vent that caused the spill, not an error by the fuel team. You guys recovered, fixed the problem and went on business as usual. We won.

FWIW the #55 team we beat had a fuel spill with a plain jug. That may have cost them the win.

Keith@FM 01-02-2013 02:51 PM

Yeah, that fuel spill was an equipment failure. No problems with Manny's team!

So Emilio, how long did that 5 minutes feel?


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