I started working on my car about 4 years ago although I didn't start racing until June of 2011.
99 Miata straight points classed 205 NT-01s on 8" 6ULs but will be on 205 RRs next +9 for RRs -7 for 205 +2 2400 pounds comp weight 99 Rebello 0 points motor with DPtune flashed ECU CAI +1 01+ OEM exhaust manifold 0 Borla SM race exhaust and cat delete +3 OS Giken diff +3 Xida-S +5 RB front sway and 949 links +2 I'm currently running a 6 speed so that uses the last of my 19 points but I'll soon be installing a 5 speed. Not sure how I want to spend those 3 points. I have poly bushings, brake ducts, front Sport brakes, adjustable bias valve, lightweight OEM shaped hardtop, stiffer engine mounts and will soon have polycarbonate windshield. I think the driver and head mechanic are the weak links of the team. Well, the owner isn't spending enough currently either to keep up with these Hoo Hoo driving fools. |
Originally Posted by Red_5
(Post 986992)
OS Giken diff +3
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I thought you had to take points for sport brakes.
My Setup: 91 Chassis dyno classed (2360/123) 99 motor with MSM intake cam stock 91 ecu with rpm switch for VICS RB header Enthuza car test pipe and exhaust 225 NT01 on 15x9 6UL +6 NB 4.3 Torsen +3 Xida CS 700/400 +5 RB hollow 1.125" front sway, MSM rear sway +2 ES Bushings 949 Endlinks 949 organic twin disk coolant reroute Koyo 37mm radiator carbotech xp10/8 Lexan windshield rear subframe brace +3 (will be removed at next alignment) probably try to register it as a '94 so I can add oem subframe bracing and 1.8 brakes. Planning on going down to 205 RR on 15x8 at some point and adding some aero. ECU is also in the plan with a squaretop and getting rid of my 1.6 AFM |
Originally Posted by b3d3g1
(Post 987001)
I thought you had to take points for sport brakes.
My Setup: 91 Chassis dyno classed (2360/123) 99 motor with MSM intake cam stock 91 ecu with rpm switch for VICS RB header Enthuza car test pipe and exhaust 225 NT01 on 15x9 6UL +6 NB 4.3 Torsen +3 Xida CS 700/400 +5 RB hollow 1.125" front sway, MSM rear sway +2 ES Bushings 949 Endlinks 949 organic twin disk coolant reroute Koyo 37mm radiator carbotech xp10/8 Lexan windshield rear subframe brace +3 (will be removed at next alignment) probably try to register it as a '94 so I can add oem subframe bracing and 1.8 brakes. Planning on going down to 205 RR on 15x8 at some point and adding some aero. ECU is also in the plan with a squaretop and getting rid of my 1.6 AFM So any NB year can run Sport Brakes front and/or rear. Thus, classing and NA6 as an NA8 is OK. Someone could argue that a few of the studs welded to the bare tub are different but it's in the spirit of the rules so even at nationals no one will give you grief if your VIN doesn't match your PT form, provided it's on the same line or cross compatible as described above. |
Originally Posted by b3d3g1
(Post 987001)
I thought you had to take points for sport brakes.
It's all about reading the rules. |
Originally Posted by Red_5
(Post 987034)
It's all about reading the rules.
This should be the title of the thread. |
ahhh, I didn't know sport brakes were ever base model. Not relevant to my NA anyways.
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Originally Posted by b3d3g1
(Post 987043)
ahhh, I didn't know sport brakes were ever base model. Not relevant to my NA anyways.
We ran Sport Brakes on all the T25 cars. |
Originally Posted by emilio700
(Post 987038)
+1
This should be the title of the thread. I will say, NASA rules seem easier to follow than SCCA's. "You can't change your radiator, but you can bore 0.020 over." |
I'm a little confused, why don't exhausts and headers add points? Is it due to dyno-classing?
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Originally Posted by motormechanic
(Post 987116)
I'm a little confused, why don't exhausts and headers add points? Is it due to dyno-classing?
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thanks for the clarification!
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Originally Posted by Red_5
(Post 987034)
Along with what Emilio said, the 99 is classed from 99-05. 03-05 came with sport brakes on the base model therefore 99 can use Sport brakes or 03 can use reg 1.8 brakes. I can also drop an entire 01+ VVT longblock in my car as a no points mod but I can't drop an 01+ bottom end with a 99 head. I got permission from Greg a few years ago to run the 01+ exhaust manifold as a no points mod.
It's all about reading the rules. |
Originally Posted by Nate99
(Post 988562)
Excellent. +1 for not knowing that Sport brakes were BTM. I assume you have to take the points if you ran regular 1.8s in front+Sport in the rear, or some other non-OEM combination?
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 988623)
Yes, read the rule book.
Even at Nationals the PT tech is laughable. I finished on the podium in PTB a few years ago, I was blown away by how little they checked. I was disappointed because my car was completely legal, I should have been cheated up... |
Originally Posted by Nate99
(Post 988562)
Excellent. +1 for not knowing that Sport brakes were BTM. I assume you have to take the points if you ran regular 1.8s in front+Sport in the rear, or some other non-OEM combination?
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Originally Posted by Red_5
(Post 988704)
I'm not sure I'd read it that way. The rules use the word "assembly" which to me in the case of brakes means corner.
The purpose of this rule is to equalize similar cars in the same (or lower) class, not to allow the creation of vehicles that were never manufactured or homologated. For the same reason, you aren't allowed to run a '99 head on a 10:1 bottom end. :) |
^^Wow, sounds like you've been talking to Greg. You're probably right. Re-reading the rules the other day got me thinking about this exact thing. Above is how I justified not changing my rears too. I'm still not going to until I can afford some new rear pads.
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Actually, I'm just bitter because I'm taking the TSE 11.75/Sport rear combo off Rover this week. Swapping back to stock 1.6 brakes to get those 2 points back. :(
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why not the 1.8 brakes? 1.6 calipers with 1.8 brackets and rotors.
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