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Originally Posted by b3d3g1
(Post 988762)
why not the 1.8 brakes? 1.6 calipers with 1.8 brackets and rotors.
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Originally Posted by emilio700
(Post 987017)
Greenbaum allows you to class as a different model of the same platform as long as all the components that make it the other model will bolt to your tub and vice versa. Precedent was an FC RX7 turbo at nationals that was the n/a model with the turbo brakes and LSD, classed as the turbo. I did that at nationals with the MSM and promptly got 100lbs added to any MSM dyno class. (sorry!)
So any NB year can run Sport Brakes front and/or rear. Thus, classing and NA6 as an NA8 is OK. Someone could argue that a few of the studs welded to the bare tub are different but it's in the spirit of the rules so even at nationals no one will give you grief if your VIN doesn't match your PT form, provided it's on the same line or cross compatible as described above. |
Originally Posted by b3d3g1
(Post 988767)
There seem to be some differences in opinion on this.
Of course with Andrew being on NASA's radar after pissing off the SoCal PTE RX-7 drivers, he might not want to re-class his car. |
Originally Posted by b3d3g1
(Post 988767)
There seem to be some differences in opinion on this.
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Originally Posted by Red_5
(Post 988770)
I would certainly send an email to Greg explaining the situation. It's a waste of points classing a 1.6 PTF**. Tire size alone makes up the difference of going to PTE base class.
Of course with Andrew being on NASA's radar after pissing off the SoCal PTE RX-7 drivers, he might not want to re-class his car. |
Originally Posted by Red_5
(Post 988770)
I would certainly send an email to Greg explaining the situation. It's a waste of points classing a 1.6 PTF**. Tire size alone makes up the difference of going to PTE base class.
PTF** on 205s: 19 + 6 (F**) + 1 (215-205) = 26pts to spend PTE on 205s = 19 + 7 (235-205) = 26pts to spend |
Originally Posted by Red_5
(Post 988770)
Of course with Andrew being on NASA's radar after pissing off the SoCal PTE RX-7 drivers, he might not want to re-class his car.
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Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 988787)
NA8s aren't given as favorable a power to weight ratio as NA6s. I could reclass as an NA8 and get the 1.8 brakes, but I have to take a weight penalty for the privilege.
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If you go that route, don't waste it on 1.8 brakes - switch to something lighter so you actually get some performance benefit out of it.
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edit: bad math..
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I wish we could grow a decent TTE class here in Texas, I'd sure as hell rather do that than SM.
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My shit on a TTE* base at 2490/145whp
Tire +6 = 225 NT-01 Drive-train +3 six speed +3 LSD Suspension +3 Dampers +2 Springs +2 Sway bar Brakes +2 BBC Aero +3 bumper/air dam Subtotal =24 points +7 for the * Grant Total: +39 points putting me in TTD. |
Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S
(Post 988688)
And then cheat like a mf'er because NASA will never tech you past dyno'ing you and weighing you after you come off the track.
Even at Nationals the PT tech is laughable. I finished on the podium in PTB a few years ago, I was blown away by how little they checked. I was disappointed because my car was completely legal, I should have been cheated up... just few weeks prior to National, Crusher was thoroughly combed over by Socal tech, sent to dyno, then have Traqmate installed in it for the later race (which it went faster). of course it is possible to cheat after this regional race just prior to the runoff. but Greg already had an idea how fast Crusher is compared to others (some other socal that also won and podium the national). As long as Crusher did not suddenly go another couple of seconds faster, there is no need to go over it with find tooth comb.... |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 988839)
brakes
+2 bbc Bbk? |
My shit on a TTE* base at 2490/145whp
Tire +6 = 225 NT-01 Drive-train +3 six speed +3 LSD Suspension +3 Dampers +2 Springs +2 Sway bar Brakes +2 BBC Aero +3 bumper/air dam Subtotal =24 points +7 for the * Grant Total: +31 points putting me in TTD. if I were you, I would run 205 RR or Hoosier. NASA points system really penalize wider (as what's said on the side wall, not the actual width). or if you have enough hp, go to 225 Hoosier. |
Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S
(Post 988688)
And then cheat like a mf'er because NASA will never tech you past dyno'ing you and weighing you after you come off the track.
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Originally Posted by bellwilliam
(Post 988845)
if I were you, I would run 205 RR or Hoosier. NASA points system really penalize wider (as what's said on the side wall, not the actual width). or if you have enough hp, go to 225 Hoosier.
NASA PT rules favor the R6 and the smallest size than you can get to work on any given car. Crusher on 205's with 170whp as an example. |
Originally Posted by bellwilliam
(Post 988845)
if I were you, I would run ??????????????. NASA points system really penalize wider (as what's said on the side wall, not the actual width). or if you have enough hp, go to 225 Hoosier.
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zOMG, SHUT UP ABOUT THE TIRE WIDTH!!!! I want to win. :cry:
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 988849)
I don't have money for 8" wheels and I can't afford $800-1000 in tires every other weekend.
true that Hoosier heat cycles out too fast. that's why I will only use Hoosier selectively.... |
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