btw, don't feel bad. I literally paid for sport brakes 30 minutes before Greg responded to me.

if you are running a points car...do you normally take the point for the PS pump and run a depowered rack, or are most people keeping the power steering? Definitely seems like a lot less fun to run the PS, but that point could probably be better spent else where...

I guess if they split up the NBs, the NB2 might have to take points to remove power steering.

I didn't realize the NB doesn't take points for PS? power steering was standard on the NB I thought?

99 Base came with manual steering.

it would seem you are correct sir:
1999 Mazda MX-5 Miata Base Convertible 1.8L 4-cyl. 5-speed Manual Features and Specs

newbie mistake on my part!

Looks like that is a points free mod, except for an engine pulley change.
I can not find any mention of power steering or the steering rack in the points section except for shimming the rack to fix bump steer.

Looks like adding power steering is free, at least as of 2011 it was:
http://nasaforums.com/viewtopic.php?...power+steering

Is there a clear winner on the "to dyno reclass or not" question for PTE with a NB2? Looks like you want to get to 145whp with a NB2 if you class on points. Getting there I'd imagine would take an ECU (+3), Intake (+1), Header (+2) and Exhaust (+2) which is about 8 points. If you dyno reclass you'll take a hit in your p:w but you basically get 8 extra points (possibly less if you spend more on tuning/0-point motor work) and a considerably "better" torque curve. So you could run a lot more tire, or throw some aero on.

I'm leaning towards dyno reclass, not entirely for performance reasons. It would be nice to be able to uncork the motor when I'm at a DE for some extra umf as well as things like power-steering delete and harmonic damper replacement.

ST TT1-3 2014 rules posted. But not TTB-F yet.

http://www.nasaproracing.com/rules/Super-Touring.pdf

Points cars are faster. You don't need the header.

Just got an email from Greenbaum. All 1.8 miatas are taking a small penalty. 1.6 stay the same

Penalty? please elaborate.

Weight.


I guess I have to apologize for that :giggle:

Not sure of the specifics but he changed my reclass from 141whp at 2105# to 140whp at 2115#.

Rewrites rule book for miatas, throws the dueces into the sunset....

"Most of the decisions have been made. A6's are now 50 points, Miatas all start in TTC, etc."

from nasaforums.com • View topic - TT1, TT2, TT3--- 2014 ST Rules are posted

:rofl:

Does this apply to 1.6 cars with a 1.8 motor swap? I would assume so...but

...about to import a jdm/eudm nb 1.6 vvt motor.

I don't know of a 1.6L B series Mazda with VVT. Engine code, applications, production years?

Damn. I was thinking about this some more. Let's say that the base weight goes up for points cars, and as mentioned the dyno reclasses become less favorable. The dyno reclassed cars will clearly be slower than before. However, the points based cars (being limited by the class maximum power to weight ratio), will be able to tune in more power to offset the added base weight.

This makes going the points classed route a bit more appealing. Too bad I've already committed myself to sticking with the dyno reclass route...

This does kind of suck.

Since I'm swapping a VVT into a 1.6 car, I have no option but to dyno reclass. I can't imagine being able to build a points 1.6 motor that could compete, even with the substantially lower weight.