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Industrial plastics guys always ask if the application is in direct sunlight for this reason when choosing material for a pliable plastic application. Black sheeting is spec'd over clear/white for longevity if exposed to outdoor UV.
Lighted sign guys would be the exception because black signs don't light up well, lol. And signs don't need to remain pliable. I guess it's ok if they get brittle (you will see a lot of fractured clear/white signs, though). |
Ok, now that my brakes are settled on I need to pick up some new harnessed. I currently have (driver's side) a 6-point 3" Schroth Racing 6pt Harness Camlock Harness. My plan was just to pick up a passenger harness and call it a day. However, I did not buy the driver's harness, so I have no idea how old it is. So, i figured maybe a better plan is to pick up two new ones so I know the date that both should be replaced. I really like the camlock on the Scroth and would like to stick with a camlock / pull down harness.
So.... 1. I currently have a 6pt harness. I am guessing the benefits to the 6pt is that you are more secure than a 5pt and more importantly it saves my boys in a crash. Is this correct to assume? 2. I can't seem to find 6pt Schoth and I know nothing about harness brands. I am looking for something that is quality, but I am not someone with a bottomless wallet. So I don't need the best of the best of the best. So what other 6pt harness setups/brands do people like? I really like Schoth's camlock, so I would like something that has a user friendly camlock. Thanks |
Originally Posted by ofspunk7
(Post 1205476)
I did not buy the driver's harness, so I have no idea how old it is.
Thanks 1. that is correct! 2. i like ultrasheild because its the only one i have experience with and theyre cheaper than most of the aftermarket. any camlock is going to be more user friendly than a latch n link |
Originally Posted by ofspunk7
(Post 1205476)
I wrote some garbage here because I can't read.
I already had some response on this subject. https://www.miataturbo.net/race-prep...2/#post1141573 I will read more and answer my own stupid question EDIT - After using my eyes to read. I am going to go with the Schroth Racing Profi II. |
Originally Posted by ofspunk7
(Post 1205476)
1. more secure than a 5pt and more importantly it saves my boys in a crash. Is this correct to assume?
Originally Posted by hi_im_sean
(Post 1205493)
1. that is correct!
The purpose of a sub belt is to keep the lab belt from rising above your hip bones and into your soft belly. If the lap belt does this your accident will be fatal at a much lower impact speed. A properly placed and properly adjusted sub belt (or belts) will never allow damage to your genitalia, no matter how large a pussy you have. An improperly adjusted sub belt will allow the shoulder harnesses to pull the lap belt upward when your upper body goes forward against them. This then allows the lap belt to move upward and rearward into your belly, pulling the sub belt(s) into your groin area in a way that can be described as "unfavorable." The sub belt is unable to unfavorably contact your ladybits if the lap belt is properly restrained downward by the sub belt(s) with both 5 and 6 pt harnesses. Many passengers in my car who have never read the manufacturer's guidelines on how to adjust harnesses tell me, "Your bottom belt is too short" when they first get in my car. I don't try to explain it -takes too long. I also have to tell them repeatedly not to tighten the shoulder belts at all until they get the lap belts as tight as they can get them. This is to keep the lap belt from coming up over the hips when they tighten the shoulder belts. There is a proper order to it all. There are instructions in the box that should be read and understood because improperly worn harnesses will kill you just as fast as improperly installed harnesses. |
Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 1205573)
No.
You are also wrong, but thanks for taking a wild-ass guess. The purpose of a sub belt is to keep the lab belt from rising above your hip bones and into your soft belly. If the lap belt does this your accident will be fatal at a much lower impact speed. A properly placed and properly adjusted sub belt (or belts) will never allow damage to your genitalia, no matter how large a pussy you have. An improperly adjusted sub belt will allow the shoulder harnesses to pull the lap belt upward when your upper body goes forward against them. This then allows the lap belt to move upward and rearward into your belly, pulling the sub belt(s) into your groin area in a way that can be described as "unfavorable." The sub belt is unable to unfavorably contact your ladybits if the lap belt is properly restrained downward by the sub belt(s) with both 5 and 6 pt harnesses. Many passengers in my car who have never read the manufacturer's guidelines on how to adjust harnesses tell me, "Your bottom belt is too short" when they first get in my car. I don't try to explain it -takes too long. I also have to tell them repeatedly not to tighten the shoulder belts at all until they get the lap belts as tight as they can get them. This is to keep the lap belt from coming up over the hips when they tighten the shoulder belts. There is a proper order to it all. There are instructions in the box that should be read and understood because improperly worn harnesses will kill you just as fast as improperly installed harnesses. no wild ass guessing here. i thought i read on a reputable retailers website that a 6 point is less strenuous on the groin area. i dont see how it cant be when its spreading the load out with an additional strap. edit: comprehension fail |
Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 1205573)
No.
You are also wrong, but thanks for taking a wild-ass guess. The purpose of a sub belt is to keep the lab belt from rising above your hip bones and into your soft belly. If the lap belt does this your accident will be fatal at a much lower impact speed. A properly placed and properly adjusted sub belt (or belts) will never allow damage to your genitalia, no matter how large a pussy you have. An improperly adjusted sub belt will allow the shoulder harnesses to pull the lap belt upward when your upper body goes forward against them. This then allows the lap belt to move upward and rearward into your belly, pulling the sub belt(s) into your groin area in a way that can be described as "unfavorable." The sub belt is unable to unfavorably contact your ladybits if the lap belt is properly restrained downward by the sub belt(s) with both 5 and 6 pt harnesses. Many passengers in my car who have never read the manufacturer's guidelines on how to adjust harnesses tell me, "Your bottom belt is too short" when they first get in my car. I don't try to explain it -takes too long. I also have to tell them repeatedly not to tighten the shoulder belts at all until they get the lap belts as tight as they can get them. This is to keep the lap belt from coming up over the hips when they tighten the shoulder belts. There is a proper order to it all. There are instructions in the box that should be read and understood because improperly worn harnesses will kill you just as fast as improperly installed harnesses. |
Originally Posted by ofspunk7
(Post 1205587)
Thanks for taking the time to write that.
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i have to readjust my codrivers sub for him constantly because he wants it comfortable and the camlock ends up around his belly button. he gets it, he just keeps forgetting i guess.
can you expand on why one would want a 6pnt compared to a 5pnt then, and why some sanctioning bodies started mandating 6pnts? |
Originally Posted by hi_im_sean
(Post 1205713)
i have to readjust my codrivers sub for him constantly because he wants it comfortable and the camlock ends up around his belly button. he gets it, he just keeps forgetting i guess.
can you expand on why one would want a 6pnt compared to a 5pnt then, and why some sanctioning bodies started mandating 6pnts? |
Originally Posted by ofspunk7
(Post 1205716)
If you start from page 1 of this thread someone already covered that.
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Originally Posted by hi_im_sean
(Post 1205721)
I must forget most everything I read as I've read this whole thread before lol. :bang:
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 1205606)
There are plenty of shitty ways to die, but having several of your internal organs ruptured and spending 10 minutes to an hour conscious of the fact that you are going to die and there is nothing to stop it because there is no way you can get to a hospital and get opened up and repaired quickly enough to survive is pretty crappy. And I wish for none of you here to become injured or killed because I was too lazy to stop and type about it.
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six shooter you are the man.
Off topic but also on topic. i went up to BSCI to have a seat inert made. 3 gopros and a week of editing latter.... |
Originally Posted by Ryephile
(Post 1205733)
This is by far the most humane thing I've read on this forum. Props most definitely deserved.
I'm going to go find a noob to ban without reasonable cause.
Originally Posted by OGRacing
(Post 1205748)
six shooter you are the man.
Damn it! I've got to work to get my troll mojo back. |
Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 1205856)
Screw you, too!
Damn it! I've got to work to get my troll mojo back. |
I've looked through this whole thread and didn't find anyone else with this issue. My 99 does not have an oem location for an eyelet bolt on the trans tunnel. Is this common with to have to drill a hole and reinforce the bolt?
Also, why would I choose the $400 schroth over the $200 gforce. Just for the option of pull-up? I don't have any plans on running a hans either. |
Originally Posted by flier129
(Post 1206245)
I've looked through this whole thread and didn't find anyone else with this issue. My 99 does not have an oem location for an eyelet bolt on the trans tunnel. Is this common with to have to drill a hole and reinforce the bolt?
Originally Posted by flier129
(Post 1206245)
Also, why would I choose the $400 schroth over the $200 gforce. Just for the option of pull-up? I don't have any plans on running a hans either.
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You can buy the G-Force with pull-up adjustment.
My understanding is that the Schroth's are also easier/smoother to adjust -- higher quality webbing and buckles I think. I know my G-Force's tend to take a set, and then they become difficult to tighten -- even with the pull-ups. If you read sixshooter's post, you know that's a bad thing. |
Originally Posted by hornetball
(Post 1206345)
My understanding is that the Schroth's are also easier/smoother to adjust -- higher quality webbing and buckles I think..
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