Thats a Pain. We had to do that to get the SParco ADV to fit into our NB miata. Last night i was finally able to remove that awful Fake bride and replace it with a FIA seat. I should have a larger selection of instructors that will be able to get into the car.

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Before it was... I need an instructor that is brave enough to get into a ls1 miata, with a Auto-x driver, and that has a pants size smaller than 32.

anyone install new seats over the weekend?

What I've done with my GForce 5pt camlock is to preset the right side lap belt and only tighten and loosen the left side lap belt.

Scroth Profis are adjustable.

That's actually what I started doing. I put an order in with ultra shield today :)

So what are we looking at for weight differences between two identical harnesses between the latch link and the cam lock option? Trying to decide if for the very specific harness I'm looking at if the cam lock is actually worth twice the money.

It's actually lighter to run without any harnesses. If we're all collectively lucky, you'll be pushed off this mortal coil when you crash into a cone and your limp, unrestrained body is thrown into the steering wheel with your last words being "I died doing what I loved... racing in parking lots".

Alternatively, what's winning worth to you? I say a few hundred bucks is completely worth it to be named cone dodger champion of TYOOL 2014.

:facepalm: Adding a lap belt, lets me remove the stock seat belt retractors, it ends up being lighter. But I want to add the sub straps from a 6 point harness to keep me from sliding down under the lap belt without having to brace myself on the car with my left leg.

Harsh dude!

You didn't seriously just say this did you? Obviously you haven't used a latch link in a while...a latch link is probably heavier, being that its all steel...you know, instead of a plastic shell and a few metal pins.

shit fucking sucks.

Oh no I know how much more of a pain it is. But its literally twice as expensive to get the cam lock. Unless someone can direct me at a camlock pull down 2" web lap belt + 6 point sub strap for under $130 that isnt made by geforce.

I know that empirical data isn't exactly your strong suit Leafy, but outside of the G-Force belts not coming with hardware and not having the best adjusters, what exactly is wrong with G-Force belts?

Cam locks releasing when you dont want it to or failing to release when you do.

I would love to see some anecdotes of FIA certified G-Force camlocks failing. I'm sure you have plenty of examples to give off hand.

I owned and used G-Force camlocks for years and this never once happened to me. Presumably you have first-person experience, and not just some shit you heard from a friend of a friend?

Yes, not FIA but SFI rated 5 point has failed to latch full on me multiple times. You plug the clip in, it clicks feels good, take 2 turns an all of a sudden the lap belt's not connected anymore. And I personally had to turn the subby screw driver to disassemble the cam lock to get a driver out of the car when the lap belt and both should harness belts failed to release. Thankfully that car has a simpson camlock harness now.

I would love to see a Youtube video of this in action.

Take it outside or to PMs? :giggle:

So back to things that matter where can I buy a camlock pull down 2" web lap belt + 6 point sub strap for under $130, because thats how much Crow wants to have one made. Neither Simpson and Scroth have easy to use custom belt configurators on their sites.