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Old 07-14-2014, 12:26 PM   #1
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Default Lets Discuss Steering: Wheels, Hubs, Quick release, ect... Also a race wheel DIY.

As the title states lets talk about Wheels.
Please share your wheel setups, tell us what you like, don't like, and ask if you have any questions.


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I personally learned the hard lesson of why you shouldn't do the "weld on" quick release hubs. I did a swap from a "weld on" to a Sparco hub and Momo Quick release. For anyone interested these are items needed to add a aftermarket wheel with a quick release.



momo bolt on quick release


sparco hub: miata-to- sparco and momo bolt pattern.


I removed the column to paint it and remove any surface rust.



Why you dont go cheap and buy a weld on, and then weld it on to your column. When the splines wear out you need to replace the column too. *little bit of advice For anyone interested. Quick releases last only so long. After a while they develop play. You can use the "hammer" technique and tighten them up again, but after awhile they need to be replaced.


Installing the Sparco hub. All mazdas the TQ spec for a sparco hub is 33ft lbs. sparco provides the Tq specs with their hubs.


After that Tighten up the momo Quick release to the sparco hub. I use german specs for this. AKA gut-in`taught


Wheel distance is a personal preference. I like a very close wheel. If you like a close wheel too use a collapsible equipment. On my equipment the Sparco hub and steering column are both collapsible.


Got everything installed.




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Quick releases - bolt on

@ OG racing we have hundreds of wheels in stock.
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Daikei Hub + NRG 2.5 QR + Momo Tornado. Keeps the horn so you can drive on the street occasionally. No airbag light on OEM cluster.

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NRG Slim hub + NRG 2.5 QR + custom momo to 3 bolt adapter + joes racing wheel with tennis grip wrap + 19mm momentary switch for horn

NRG slim hub is great, its nice and short, and heavy duty, I wish it had lightening holes in it because its just a block

NRG QR is nice, its cheap, has zero play, everyone and their brother uses them (so if you want to try a different wheel someone will have it already mounted to a qr that fits your car), and the wheel only goes on one way.

Joe racing wheel blows, I wish mine was dished, I with it had a better grip, I wish it was smaller than 13", I wish the spokes didnt like eating fingers. Whenever I co drive with someone I take advantage of the NRG hub standard and use their wheel.

ebay hub. Cracked mine in 2 weeks, $12 was too good to be true
Ebay NRG knockoff, its too sloppy for a racer, leave them for honda ricer boyz
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Momo Adapter + NRG 2.5 + Momo Tornado. Keeps the horn so you can drive on the street occasionally.
Same here except I use a Momo Competition. I don't have a horn though because the clock spring broke long ago and I don't use the horn much anyway.
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so you mean you only need a quick release and a hub to install a quick release in my car?!? I DID NOT KNOW.


Sorry, I coudln't help it....

I have a 330mm sparco of some type. bought it used. it works.
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so you mean you only need a quick release and a hub to install a quick release in my car?!? I DID NOT KNOW.
Any time, i'm here to help citizens!
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OMP quick release and OMP superquadro here. Almost a year in, so far so good.
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Daikei adapter, NRG 2.5 QR, Sparco 383 350mm.

I hate splined QRs with a passion.

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I have a NRG 2.0 QR and NRG flat bottomed wheel. Both came with the car. Love the wheel but the QR I don't love. Pressing the little button seems fiddly and it really needs paddles for the unlatching (which they fixed in later models). I can get out of the car pretty easily without removing the wheel but if I got a full cage I'd go to another release.

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Love the wheel but the QR I don't love. Pressing the little button seems fiddly and it really needs paddles for the unlatching (which they fixed in later models).
FYI, that little button can be removed by removing a set screw behind it (inside the QR) and taking the spring and button out from the backside. I've done this to both of mine. I agree that the version 2.5 with the wings is easier to use, but I've gotten used to the 1.0 in Rover so I don't notice it as much.

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I've never felt one that didn't have a small amount of play when engaged, and they do not release and attach as smoothly as an NRG (Works Bell knockoff), to the point where I think I'd fear not being able to easily remove the wheel in the event of a fire.

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I have a NRG 2.0 QR and NRG flat bottomed wheel. Both came with the car. Love the wheel but the QR I don't love. Pressing the little button seems fiddly and it really needs paddles for the unlatching (which they fixed in later models). I can get out of the car pretty easily without removing the wheel but if I got a full cage I'd go to another release.



Why?
If you align the QR just right when you pull it with some force it also pushes the pin down.

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Momo hub is a POS. You shouldn't have to re-engineer a part that's plug-and-play.

It's JDM as ****, but at least the Daikei is plug-and-play with the Miata.
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FYI, that little button can be removed by removing a set screw behind it (inside the QR) and taking the spring and button out from the backside. I've done this to both of mine.
+1. I think this is a required safety measure for a track car. You've got to be able to get the wheel off easily with gloves on.
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Perfect timing as I just bought a wheel and have been looking at hubs and QR.

For those that have it, how does the NRG slim + NRG QR + no dish wheel stack height compare to the stock wheel?
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Perfect timing as I just bought a wheel and have been looking at hubs and QR.

For those that have it, how does the NRG slim + NRG QR + no dish wheel stack height compare to the stock wheel?
close enough to the stock position to not really notice. depending on if its a true flat wheel like the joes racing or a "flat" wheel which actually has like a 1" dish like most other wheels.
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Momo hub is a POS. You shouldn't have to re-engineer a part that's plug-and-play.

It's JDM as ****, but at least the Daikei is plug-and-play with the Miata.
Derp. Daikei is what I used, not Momo. I bought it so long ago that I couldn't remember, and the Momo looked familiar.
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no pictures yet?
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Derp. Daikei is what I used, not Momo.
+1 . . . again. Looked again and I've got the Daikei too, with that little resistor thingy that keeps the airbag light in the OEM cluster turned off.
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Can anyone comment on the nrg 2.0 vs the 2.5 or 3.0. It looks like the 2.0 is longer length than the others. Is the tabs on the newer models worth the easy of removal for a quicker fire escape?

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I've got the 2.5. Very easy to use with gloves on. Can't speak to the others.
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