Leafy

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This, dont you guys use the OveGlove? Its a nomex oven mitt glove thing. Totally boss at keeping the pan heat away from you till it gets wet, then it transmits heat through the water like nobody's business.

Dunning Kruger Affect

Leafy, you don't need to wear a firesuit around the parking lot. Stop being a tryhard.

Leafy

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I do own a lemons car you know.

OGRacing

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That statement came straight from Warren at SPARCO. I will get a link for you.
there seems to be a overestimation of the amount of protection you get and underestimating the temperatures achieved in the middle of a fire. layering up your suit will only make you sweat more. the more liquid on your suit the better and faster the heat transfer. ever wonder why you can cook a sausage in boiling water in 8 min but on a grill it takes 10. or when you solder wire it works faster if you load up the tip of your soldering iron. same theory, liquid transmits heat faster. Liquid will help the heat transmit threw your suit.

In a fire, you're reaching serious temperatures. depending on what's burning your in the middle of 4,000 - 9,000*. FYI water boils at 212*.



The idea that 10 seconds is a long time can be true. Just remember it takes 8 seconds to get out of a car @ 100mph. It might take longer if the brake fluid started the fire.

"the ankles, wrists, neck are often the worst places, tight layers but not much sweat collected there".
a lot of sweat is collected in the tightest clothing area. also remember those areas can become exposed to open flame by gaps in the clothing. overlay overlay overlay. make sure your gear is tucked in!

unk577

What will protect you is air space between you and your suit. The wrist and ankles are two places where the cuffs can be tight and have pressure on your skin, transferring heat as the material heats up.

What will kill you long before the burns will is that first breath of super heated air that cooks your lungs and prevents any further oxygenation of your blood.

OGRacing

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Absolutely. The movie rush displayed Niki lauda's incident to the T. It's good to have a good fire system and a good suit.

remember that elastic melts. so your undies you got from target are 100% cotton (cotton is good) except for the elastic waist band. same goes for socks. If you don't have nomex underwear you'll want cotton with no logos. the logo is sometimes screen printed and that will melt too.

Ryan_G

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So an under armor type umderlayer is a bad idea?

Efini~FC3S

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Yes, terrible terrible idea.

Nomex or cotton under garments or bust

OGRacing

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OMG don't do that

Froot-of-the-loom white cotton undershirts are the best/cheapest

Ryan_G

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I just did a little research. Under Armour and a few of its competitors do make nomex gear for use under other first suits.

Men’s UA Tactical Fire Retardant Short Sleeve Shirt | 1236389 | Under Armour US

Not the cheapest option but I find myself to be far more comfortable in that type of clothing than I ever am in a normal cotton shirt. Food for thought.

OGRacing

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We are starting to see alternative to cotton / nomex hitting the market this year. it is very exciting, but also brand spanking new technology. i personally would wait a year or two until the SFI or Fia do their pyro work to them.

Sandro351

1/32th of a lemons car*

OGRacing

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that's like 1 lugnut, a brake rotor and 3 bars in the cage.

Leafy

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Carbon-X is a nomex type material that acts like underarmor it feels so amazing on the skin. You will pay a premium over nomex though. For comparison, a normal nomex dead sock is like $30, a carbon-x one is like $75.

Leafy

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Its 1/15th and its a coronet, so by mass its like owning 2/3rds of a miata.

Sandro351

Under armor has had that fire retardant stuff on the market for a few years now. Haven't seen it go FIA yet. There's alot of military spec stuff out there and just like the lemons rules say, it may be superior but it's not fia/sfi. Just get a good 2 layer suit. The sfi 3.2/A5 is what I have and it's great for if you want to wear cotton under it. Nomex head sock and socks.
Spend the money or look like Nikki Lauda.

OGRacing

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The flight suits can make for a good track day suit if you rock some Nomex underwear. I dont know what Nomex leafy is comparing the carbon X too, but I highly Doubt it's nicer than a nice set of Sparco Nomex underwear.



http://www.ogracing.com/sparco-pro-t...-nomex-t-shirt

OGRacing

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Perfect timing as we talk about undershirts!! Track gear just released this video, their shirts just got a ******.

you can clearly see the Polyester shirts melting.


EDIT ***** The shirts are not SFI rated, the material used to make them is SFI fire rated... but the shirts are not..***