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Old 04-23-2012, 02:56 PM   #1
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Simple question. I'm adding an oil cooler to my race car, if I use a local hydraulic shop to fab the lines for me, is this all I need to order? Will the oil cooler be large enough?

Earl's 16 Row Cooler: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EAR-21610ERL/

Mocal Sandwich Plate - 20mm Thread: http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/p...Sandwich_Plate

Mocal 1/2" BSP x -10 fitting: http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/product/3282/s

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You're forgetting the most important part, a bigger oil cooler.
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I just put that Mocal adapter on my car, now I don't know where I'm gonna put my oil temp probe...

Try to find something with more options.
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You're forgetting the most important part, a bigger oil cooler.
So the Earl's 16 row isn't big enough? How big should I go?
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Get the 8x13 Setrab from Trackspeed and get the lines and adapter from Bat Inc. I don't know why you guys all cry about making SS lines, it's probably because you're full-on homo and functionally women. If you build them yourself they will definitely fit better.
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You do realize that properly crimped fittings on hydraulic hoses are much more reliable... right? And if you can't figure out how long your hoses need to be without trail and error, you have more problems than just the obvious homophobia

BUT, thanks for the size recommendation, I'll go with an 8x13

EDIT: Now that my other questions have been answered, how about a new one. Has anyone found a need to run an Accusump?
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EDIT: Now that my other questions have been answered, how about a new one. Has anyone found a need to run an Accusump?
I believe BBundy is/was running one? I believe he said something about that when we met at MRLS so you might prod him.
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Is a -10 the recommended size? I had just ordered an rx-7 cooler, the mocal plate and -8 fittings.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/120843076454...S:3160&vxp=mtr
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Hustler had issues with oil pressures that went away when he switched from -8 lines to -10.

I'm running -8 currently with no known oil pressure issues.

Most people are running -10, I'd suggest that, but obviously I have physical proof in my garage that there's nothing wrong with -8.
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Hustler made me buy -10.
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And if you can't figure out how long your hoses need to be without trail and error, you have more problems than just the obvious homophobia
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No matter how accurate you think you've measured your oil hoses, you will typically have to tweak them.

If you've been too aggressive, you wont be able to connect the last end or they wont have enough length to bend as you intended.

If you've been too lenient, your hoses will be too long and may rub where you don't want.

When everything is tightened up you may want more or less flex to avoid rubbing.

You'll end up with a much better installation if you make the hoses yourself. The hoses aren't difficult to make, just be sure to get the right tools (aluminium AN vice jaws and aluminium AN spanners). I'd never made them before and didn't screw up assembling the hose fittings once (hose lengths were another story) using these instructions:

Generic stainless steel hose assembly Instructions: https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/do...ocID=TECH00027
AeroFLow catalog instructions (see top of page 79): http://issuu.com/aeroflow/docs/af_cat_4_web_111111/5

Here's the start of my build thread concerning my oil cooler/relocation kit installation:
http://mx5cartalk.com/forum/viewtopi...1091&start=161
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I've used the hydraulic shop method at least 3 times and never had an issue To each his own, I guess.
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When I built my oil cooler a couple weeks ago I had my local hydraulic shop assemble the lines. I simply had them install 90degree fittings on 2 lines that were about 6 feet long each. I then attached those to the sandwich plate. Then I routed and measured the lengths of them to the oil cooler. I then went back to the hydraulic shop and had them finish the lines with the measurements I made.
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why not Tru-Cool coolers? they are less than half the cost:

http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/p...ol_Oil_Coolers

8x11 = $64

vs

http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/p...ab_Oil_Coolers

setrab 7.5x13 = $238
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Next to zero air flow through those things. They're more of a heat sink than a oil cooler.

Unfortunately I fell for their price though. Do they work? Sure. Great quality, not so great air flow.
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So are Setrab coolers better than Mocal coolers?
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by all accounts Setrab are the best oil coolers money can by
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I just put that Mocal adapter on my car, now I don't know where I'm gonna put my oil temp probe...

Try to find something with more options.
Tap the pan? I've not been impressed with the oil drain plug probe adapter I have... I'm not CR.net low, but I'm low enough to worry.

I thought about running a generic plate with a probe bung + a Mocal 0T2 -10 thermostat, but that's just more connections and more failure points.

I'd love to see some other options as well.
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The Glowshift sandwich plate I have has 2 ports on the side that can be used for oil temp sensors or other things. It does not have a thermostat though so that may be a downside.
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The Glowshift sandwich plate I have has 2 ports on the side that can be used for oil temp sensors or other things. It does not have a thermostat though so that may be a downside.
Street, track, or dual use? What are your oil temps in the colder months?

I would definitely want thermostat control for a dual-use car. Track only car? Not so much. I've known people who drive street cars with coolers and they seem to have issues getting the oil up to operating temp in the winter months. I'm left coast so we actually drive our cars year round
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