Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix
(Post 1336999)
Just curious, pressing the A/C button with the interior fan doesn't manually activate your fan?
how many people would we need for there to be interest in making this a reality?
Originally Posted by vtjballeng
(Post 1337000)
Beautiful. ~90C ABS starts to weaken. ~105C it weakens more (Tg or glass transition). Oil temps will likely reach these values so I would recommend another material if possible.
http://www.nrri.umn.edu/NLTC/ABS07.pdf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_transition PC Thermoplastic, Fortus 3D Production Systems FDM Materials | Stratasys If you have good airflow and an insulated / gasketed gap you can probably get away with ABS. PC or PC/ABS mix will raise the temp as you can gain ~50C or ~20C respectively on the glass transition temperature. |
That's curious. My fans are also in tandem and the main run when A/C is used anyway. I don't have an A/C compressor at the moment, but I can turn my fans on manually by switching on the blower and pressing the A/C button.
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If the chassis doesn't come with A/C from the factory, they may not have the A/C button on the blower motor controls.
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Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 1336970)
What would you two be willing to pay for something like that?
The heat issue needs resolution one way or another, and there may be a need to protect the plastic from rocks and debris off the tyre, but that may be as simple as providing mounting points for purchasers to mount their own aluminium shield as and if they wish (or maybe that is too trivial for the 'can do' folk on here). |
If you're really concerned for the heat its relatively easy to sand and filler the printed parts and make molds off of them for making composites using resin with better high temp properties than abs. And thats probably better suited to production than actually printing all of them.
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Originally Posted by Der_Idiot
(Post 1337044)
If the chassis doesn't come with A/C from the factory, they may not have the A/C button on the blower motor controls.
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Mishimoto Oil cooler kit.
Has anyone besides them done any testing on it yet. They have redone it a couple of times since the univeral release. They've incorporated a duct at the undertray with mesh for protection. Granted, it only has a 10 row core, but uses 10an lines, larger than FM and better airflow than FM too. It shouldn't increase engine pressure that much I think. They are having a massive sale 30% off and I might spring for it because it would be around $345 shipped http://m.mishimoto.com/mazda-miata-oil-cooler-kit-99-05.html http://engineering.mishimoto.com/2015/09/mazda-miata-nb-oil-cooler-rd-part-2-oil-cooler-shroud-and-duct-development/ |
Our experience with Mishimoto products has not been favorable. They do appear to be improving since the catch can we received from them that was non-functional. As in, whomever designed it didn't know how a catch can works. Just a shiny can with some fittings. Radiators that don't fit. Fans that disintegrate, etc
Setrab and TSE OTOH.. that is a no brainer. Don't skimp on your oil cooler. |
I've had the same experience. They had a thread on cr.net with some statements about their testing procedure that were just wrong. Testing the warm up time without driving (no air through the cooler) and similar.
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lol @ their cooler placement.
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Placement is not as bad as the ducting ;)
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They basically used the same location as FM, just with a custom air duct. The location worries me though. I haven't had an off course track incident yet, but it'll happen eventually because that's racing. That duct will turn into a nice shovel plow.
I haven't had any over heating issues yet with my stock MSM cooling system. I just wanted to gather some input on it and see if anyone had any decent luck with it. I wouldn't call it cheaping out considering they do use some quality parts and that price tag. I really dislike fabricating all the time and was just looking for a solid plug and play solution like my moss kit on the NA. |
I'm using a location that is not too far off on my new car (laying flat under the sway bar) but I have a splitter that will take any hit well before something comes even close to the cooler and my ducting is done completely differently.
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Originally Posted by mr_mazda329
(Post 1343139)
They basically used the same location as FM, just with a custom air duct. The location worries me though. I haven't had an off course track incident yet, but it'll happen eventually because that's racing. That duct will turn into a nice shovel plow.
I haven't had any over heating issues yet with my stock MSM cooling system. I just wanted to gather some input on it and see if anyone had any decent luck with it. I wouldn't call it cheaping out considering they do use some quality parts and that price tag. I really dislike fabricating all the time and was just looking for a solid plug and play solution like my moss kit on the NA. |
Originally Posted by emilio700
(Post 1343142)
You're comparing a Setrab core to a Mishimoto core. That is about as apples and orange as you get.
Hate to play the devils advocate, especially with you Emilio since I respect everything you have done for the platform. Has anyone compared this oil cooler core vs a setrab equivalent? Or even emailed them and asked them if it is a debaged Setrab? Flow testing? Like I almost want to get it to test things out just. I mean, I currently run an eBay FMIC and downpipe and a joes CAI intake on my MSM. Car works beautifully and flawless over the past 2 yrs. Yet, I am the devil because, I didn't buy Begi or FM, in the MSM world. |
Originally Posted by mr_mazda329
(Post 1343162)
Has anyone compared this oil cooler core vs a setrab equivalent? Or even emailed them and asked them if it is a debaged Setrab? Flow testing? Like I almost want to get it to test things out just.
In other words, feel free to do that testing and share it with the community. Controlled A-B testing with inlet/outlet temps measured and datalogged in relation to ambient air temp. With all due respect, I won't waste my time trying to justify the functionality of a Setrab cooler compared to some off-brand knockoff core. |
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You would sound more convincing if you didn't post the same generic "quality" disclaimer that all the other knockoff companies posted.
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Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1346353)
You would sound more convincing if you didn't post the same generic "quality" disclaimer that all the other knockoff companies posted.
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Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix
(Post 1294700)
I'll just leave this right here:
Oil cooler (25row) duct kit with mounting brackets 1. EO2k 2. Psyber_0ptix 3. Der Idiot 4. |
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