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Savington 05-23-2013 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by comradefks (Post 1014618)
Does Dorman have a solution for the front hubs that would save some coin too? Didn't see it on Rock Auto's site or NAPA for that matter.

Mazda's front hubs are reboxed NTNs, available for ~$100 in a few places. You can occasionally find Timkens for ~$65, and those are reboxed NTNs as well, but the Timkens may or may not have the ABS ring in the correct place and availability is spotty. I have yet to experiment with anything cheaper than the $65 Timkens.

Sokool 05-23-2013 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by Mobius (Post 1014480)
From where? I am showing $44 per at Napa.

Resale discount. Perks of running a side automotive business. :-)

bbundy 05-23-2013 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 1014493)

Rock Auto $21.79 + $15.43 ground shipping to my location. Seems like I almost never find Rock Auto to be the cheapest overall for anything. Big orders don't usually help either because most every individual part gets its own shipping charge shipped from different locations across the country.

emilio700 05-23-2013 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by bbundy (Post 1014661)
Rock Auto $21.79 + $15.43 ground shipping to my location. Seems like I almost never find Rock Auto to be the cheapest overall for anything. Big orders don't usually help either because most every individual part gets its own shipping charge shipped from different locations across the country.

Contradictory Bob is contradictory

Scrappy Jack 05-23-2013 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by bbundy (Post 1014649)
What hubs are people getting when they order the Dorman hubs?
I ordered two hubs at once from Amazon and here is what I got.

I should have an answer for you in a couple of days, because I just ordered the same thing from Amazon.

emilio700 05-23-2013 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by bbundy (Post 1014649)
What hubs are people getting when they order the Dorman hubs?
I ordered two hubs at once from Amazon and here is what I got.

One on the left says made in Taiwan has OEM looking studs with 1990-1993 knurl diameter and two threaded holes in the flange.

One on the right says made in China has black studs with 1994+ knurl diameter and no threaded holes in the flange.

That's dissapointing, The 8 I bought from amazon two weeks ago were all the Taiwan variety. I didn't know they were for the smaller studs. Not a huge deal as the smaller knurl ARP studs still don't break.

comradefks 05-23-2013 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1014656)
Mazda's front hubs are reboxed NTNs, available for ~$100 in a few places. You can occasionally find Timkens for ~$65, and those are reboxed NTNs as well, but the Timkens may or may not have the ABS ring in the correct place and availability is spotty. I have yet to experiment with anything cheaper than the $65 Timkens.

Any chance you have a part number for the NTN and/or the Timkens?

Scrappy Jack 05-23-2013 01:08 PM

When this is all figured out, I'm going to make a thread with all the part numbers compiled that I have. Before I do that, I need to get some verification that the below is accurate for ARP wheel studs:

ARP 100-7719 89-93 all corners, front 94-05
ARP 100-7720 rear 94-05 (and where hubs have been replaced since -94)

bbundy 05-23-2013 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 1014668)
That's dissapointing, The 8 I bought from amazon two weeks ago were all the Taiwan variety. I didn't know they were for the smaller studs. Not a huge deal as the smaller knurl ARP studs still don't break.

Amazons $32.34 with free shipping is less than Rock Auto’s $37.22 including shipping. Napaonline shows them in stock for $48.59 at the Local Napa store. If I hadn’t ridden my bike to work today I would go see what version Napa had in stock at lunch.

Ski_Lover 05-24-2013 12:15 AM

Experience w/Raybestos? These are $57 on Amazon Prime:


Savington 05-24-2013 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by comradefks (Post 1014672)
Any chance you have a part number for the NTN and/or the Timkens?

Timken: 513152 nonABS, 513155 ABS

NTN: W0133-1834777 nonABS, W0133-1599959 ABS

Savington 05-24-2013 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack (Post 1014676)
When this is all figured out, I'm going to make a thread with all the part numbers compiled that I have. Before I do that, I need to get some verification that the below is accurate for ARP wheel studs:

ARP 100-7719 89-93 all corners, front 94-05
ARP 100-7720 rear 94-05 (and where hubs have been replaced since -94)

Correct. 7719 is all fronts and 90-93 original rears (plus some Dorman hubs), 7720 is 94-05 rears or all OEM replacement rears.

Savington 05-24-2013 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Ski_Lover (Post 1014789)
Experience w/Raybestos? These are $57 on Amazon Prime:

Rebestos 713155

I suspect it's probably a Chinese-made version of the NTN/Timken. The ABS ring is in the wrong place as well.

The Japanese-made NTNs have green wheel studs.

bbundy 05-24-2013 05:08 PM

Ok I just went to the local Napa. Quite an adventure actually because of the I5 bridge collapse over the Skagit river and 70,000 cars worth of daily traffic being transferred to surface streets! The hub they had was Identical to the Taiwan version of the Dorman 930-550 hub I got from Amazon but packaged in a Napa box. It uses 1990-93 studs.

jpreston 05-24-2013 09:08 PM

Bah... I ordered parts 2 weeks too early. I've got Taiwan dorman hubs and 94+ ARP studs sitting here not doing me any good. Guess I need to order 90-93 ARPs. Anyone need a set of 94+ rear studs? (1 set = enough for both rears)

Scrappy Jack 05-24-2013 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by bbundy (Post 1014649)
What hubs are people getting when they order the Dorman hubs? I ordered two hubs at once from Amazon and here is what I got.

One on the left says made in Taiwan has OEM looking studs with 1990-1993 knurl diameter and two threaded holes in the flange.

One on the right says made in China has black studs with 1994+ knurl diameter and no threaded holes in the flange.


Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack (Post 1014667)
I should have an answer for you in a couple of days, because I just ordered the same thing from Amazon.

I got the same damn thing: one of each.


Originally Posted by jpreston (Post 1015134)
Bah... I ordered parts 2 weeks too early. I've got Taiwan dorman hubs and 94+ ARP studs sitting here not doing me any good. Guess I need to order 90-93 ARPs. Anyone need a set of 94+ rear studs? (1 set = enough for both rears)

Ha! I did something similar. Before I realized there was a difference, I ordered 4 sets of 100-7720 (94+ rears), not realizing there were different part numbers front and rear.

emilio700 05-25-2013 12:07 AM

You guys that ordered studs from us, send em back and I'll swap.

njn63 05-25-2013 02:06 AM

You can also use the f-body ARP studs in place of the 90-93s. Somehow it's significantly cheaper for 5 f-body studs than it is for 4 Miata ones.

Part number is 100-7708.

JSpeed6 05-25-2013 02:31 AM


Originally Posted by njn63 (Post 1015188)
You can also use the f-body ARP studs in place of the 90-93s. Somehow it's significantly cheaper for 5 f-body studs than it is for 4 Miata ones.

Part number is 100-7708.

haha, related but I did the same thing with my speed6 when I had it. took me some time to find the info I needed, but I too found out the f-body studs fit the hubs.

guess I should check my hubs I have in storage due to this thread.

Laur3ns 05-27-2013 05:24 PM

I'm swapping the hubs for new OEM Mazda as the current ones have been on the car ever since it rolled out of the factory.

There are no visibile signs or anything, it would be nice to get them x-rayed, but who cares.

I am having the hubs sanded down very slighly (2/100th) so you can actually slip them in and out of the bearings by hand, without destroying the bearings. I had that done a while ago so I'm not replacing bearings this time.


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