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y8s 08-06-2010 11:57 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 613469)
I wonder if removing my soft-top will not help my corner balancing considering the front is super heavy?

remove weight, add downforce.

Marko 08-08-2010 07:07 AM

Have you guys read this faq?
http://lightweightmiata.com/forum/in...863&topic=72.0

hustler 08-08-2010 09:45 AM

I wish I didn't weigh 188lb.

old_s13 08-08-2010 12:38 PM

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thasac 08-08-2010 02:43 PM

I didn't see it mentioned and I know most of this forums about keeping it cheap BUT the v8 roadsters front subframe is supposedly good for 10 lbs ....right where you'd want to lose it.

You could also look at using aluminum or nylon hardware for all non-critical connections (e.g. - fenders, dash, etc.). There's a couple motorcyle vendors that sell a lot of lightweight metric hardware in alu/Ti. Not really worth the effort IMO.


-Zach

curly 08-08-2010 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by old_s13 (Post 613886)
im surprised no one mentioned sound deadening


good call on the wiring, theres a lot of useless stuff that can be trimmed out. its advisable to build your own wiring harness for the entire engine and chassis.

Wha...? This post is two grammar errors away being warned, and only one idiotic statement.

Why the hell and who the hell would someone want to make a new harness? Dozens of people have documented their miata race car build, and do no such thing. Snowboarder is the first and only I know of that's done anything but just use the stock harness and cut out unneeded wires. And I think all he did was cut the harness where it went through the bulkhead and put a connector there.

Seriously, WTF. Myself, Savington, Keith's Targa build, FM's Track Dog build, Bbundy....Who's advising this!?!

old_s13 08-08-2010 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 613917)
Wha...? This post is two grammar errors away being warned, and only one idiotic statement.

Why the hell and who the hell would someone want to make a new harness? Dozens of people have documented their miata race car build, and do no such thing. Snowboarder is the first and only I know of that's done anything but just use the stock harness and cut out unneeded wires. And I think all he did was cut the harness where it went through the bulkhead and put a connector there.

Seriously, WTF. Myself, Savington, Keith's Targa build, FM's Track Dog build, Bbundy....Who's advising this!?!

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curly 08-08-2010 03:56 PM

I fucking know you can trim down the harness and make it lighter, I've done it. Your original post, if you can read, suggests making a completely new one yourself, not modifying the original, as everyone else does.

Smustang1234 08-08-2010 04:47 PM

In my years I've seen many efforts to lighten a race vehicle, some included whaleing bolts and or rifle drilling some parts. If you don't understand the term whaleing, think of a bolt that fits a bushed bore. It could be an alternater bolt or a PPF, the part of the bolt that does not need to be the bushed size can be reduced. Yes it is alot of work to chuck a bolt in a lathe to remove a few grams, but it does add up.

hustler 08-08-2010 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by Smustang1234 (Post 613958)
In my years I've seen many efforts to lighten a race vehicle, some included whaleing bolts and or rifle drilling some parts.

I don't think anyone on this forum has that kind of money.

Smustang1234 08-08-2010 05:28 PM

Trey, it doesn't take $$ it takes friends.

old_s13 08-08-2010 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 613942)
I fucking know you can trim down the harness and make it lighter, I've done it. Your original post, if you can read, suggests making a completely new one yourself, not modifying the original, as everyone else does.

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Savington 08-08-2010 08:54 PM

We know, and we don't think that's intelligent. It's significantly easier and cheaper to trim the stock harness down.

old_s13 08-08-2010 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 614024)
We know, and we don't think that's intelligent. It's significantly easier and cheaper to trim the stock harness down.

sorry

ill sell my car and re-do it the way you guys want :)

olderguy 08-08-2010 09:29 PM

Inflate the tires with helium

hustler 08-08-2010 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by old_s13 (Post 614026)
sorry

ill sell my car and re-do it the way you guys want :)

Try not to be such a dumbfuck on the forum.

thasac 08-09-2010 12:29 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 614040)
Try not to be such a dumbfuck on the forum.

To be fair, he was getting an exorbitant amount of shit for something which is pretty fucking common outside of this forum.

There's something to be said about the custom harness in my Dad's vette - no looming and everything is tightly bound and zip tied every 4 inches. In 40 seconds you can trace any wire back to the fuse box which is mounted right on the dash.

If you really wanted to minimize wiring weight in any vehicle/product/house the goal is to bundle components which are 'communicating' with each other as close as possible in order to minimize wire length. I have not messed around too much with the harness under the dash, but I assume Mazda made compromises for the sake of packaging and maintenance which results in a harness which is longer than actually needed in a gutted track car.

We're probably taking grams here of course.

-Zach

y8s 08-09-2010 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by olderguy (Post 614037)
Inflate the tires with helium

better yet, inflate the tires with vacuum. no mass!

old_s13 08-09-2010 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by thasac (Post 614100)
To be fair, he was getting an exorbitant amount of shit for something which is pretty fucking common outside of this forum.

There's something to be said about the custom harness in my Dad's vette - no looming and everything is tightly bound and zip tied every 4 inches. In 40 seconds you can trace any wire back to the fuse box which is mounted right on the dash.

Sounds awesome.


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 614040)
Damn I wish my cock wasnt so fucking small. People often confuse it for my belly button

Fat fuck.. haha

spd579 08-09-2010 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 614192)
better yet, inflate the tires with vacuum. no mass!

Helium>no mass......considering no mass=no inflation :idea:


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