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concealer404 12-06-2013 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1079573)
And (re)valve the shocks correctly for the springs and your driving style 3rd. :2cents:


In an ideal scenario, absolutely. Not like it matters for Miatas since there's eleventy billion shock options and shit, but i had a rather lengthy phone call with Lee Grimes on this subject since i more commonly fuck with cars that don't have shit for shock options.

emilio700 12-06-2013 12:30 PM

tecna are not rebuildable, no revalving possible.

Leafy 12-06-2013 12:33 PM

Are we talking "not rebuildable" or NOT rebuildable. Like stock driveshafts are "not rebuildable" but most internal waste gate actuators are NOT rebuildable.

concealer404 12-06-2013 12:38 PM

Who cares? By the time you buy them, get new springs, and then pay someone to figure out if they can be rebuildable/revalved, and then do the job...

You've spent Xida money. Derp.

Leafy 12-06-2013 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1080230)
Who cares? By the time you buy them, get new springs, and then pay someone to figure out if they can be rebuildable/revalved, and then do the job...

You've spent Xida money. Derp.

Well I mean what happens 20 years down the road when emillio has closed down 949 and retired to bora bora and they finally need a rebuild.

concealer404 12-06-2013 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1080232)
Well I mean what happens 20 years down the road when emillio has closed down 949 and retired to bora bora and they finally need a rebuild.

You buy something else instead of clinging to 20 year old shocks, as undoubtably there would have been some advances in two decades' time.

emilio700 12-06-2013 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by Leafy (Post 1080225)
Are we talking "not rebuildable" or NOT rebuildable. Like stock driveshafts are "not rebuildable" but most internal waste gate actuators are NOT rebuildable.

Not rebuildable period. Welded cap. Any units found defective during the 3 yr warranty period will get a replacement. The tecna are very well made dampers. I suspect that like Bilsteins, they will be sold and resold for many years after the original owner is done with them.

vintagerust 12-06-2013 02:39 PM

Lol- Guys, it's a stainless body, non rebuildable coilover that's made well, tuned for awesome street dynamics, and priced competitively at an estimated $750.
You're not going to snake around and make a budget XIDA with these things. The max spring rate these things will take is probably 500lb front springs, and 400lb rear, but the valving will not be set up for those rates, and you'll probably wear them out, sooner.
Granted, no one's telling you you can't do so.
Buy a set. See if you like them. If you feel like they can take more spring, give it a go. Buy some used springs, and throw 'em on. See what they do. At the very least, it doesn't work that well, and you're only out $100-200. You can always sell the springs after that.
If it does work, then great! Come back and let us know.

Quite frankly though, the majority of people interested in these will love them out of the box, because they'll soon realize they don't compete, or even attend that many auto-x/track days throughout the year, and that they will be perfectly content with the abilities of the package from the get go.

my97miata 01-03-2014 06:25 PM

How much longer before these Tecna coilovers are available to the public?

emilio700 01-04-2014 12:41 AM


Originally Posted by my97miata (Post 1088291)
How much longer before these Tecna coilovers are available to the public?

We're hoping to ship kits at the end of February but we'll see. That is not a promise just an estimation.

NW253 01-06-2014 02:34 PM

The simple fact that these dampers have what seems to be more than adequate travel (particularly on the rear) makes me think that they'll be a huge win.

After spending way too much time with pre-load adjustments, making the most of my BC rears at 75mm travel.... I've come to appreciate this feature in a product like the TECNA's. The fact is, even if you have a coilover that is completely dialed, and it lacks adequate droop travel, you're still gonna hate life when you hit large bumps or dips in the road. Probably not the case with these.

ozbrock 01-06-2014 03:08 PM

I am in for a set when they are ready!

ihmcguinness 01-14-2014 04:50 PM

I've got the FM 2.5 (with their recessed rear top hats). Did you give any thought to offering an aftermarket rear top hat to increase travel further?

emilio700 01-14-2014 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by ihmcguinness (Post 1091699)
I've got the FM 2.5 (with their recessed rear top hats). Did you give any thought to offering an aftermarket rear top hat to increase travel further?

This assumes the coilover systems lacks bump travel, which it does not in this case. We're actually including bump travel limiters for those users that run 225/45's on 9's. The tecna are designed around the factory NB hat. We even have our own steel NB mount clone on standby if Mazda discontinues or raises the price on the factory NB mount.

TorqueZombie 01-14-2014 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 1091725)
We even have our own steel NB mount clone on standby if Mazda discontinues or raises the price on the factory NB mount.

This is why I like 949. Always prepared. I'm really curious how these turn out. Mine is a daily with limited auto-x use. As long as they would be fine for a noob in that realm then yay.

mgeoffriau 01-14-2014 06:15 PM

Now I'm super-duper interested in these as I picked up a 94 R-package and the suspension is TERRIBLE. It might handle well on a perfectly smooth surface but on real roads it's just abusive.

Erat 01-14-2014 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 1091736)
Now I'm super-duper interested in these as I picked up a 94 R-package and the suspension is TERRIBLE. It might handle well on a perfectly smooth surface but on real roads it's just abusive.

This.

I'm more so interested in when / if preordering will happen.

Fireindc 01-14-2014 07:02 PM

I want them too, but I'll probably wait until a few test sets are out their and I can get some reviews from other users :P

emilio700 01-14-2014 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by Fireindc (Post 1091755)
I want them too, but I'll probably wait until a few test sets are out their and I can get some reviews from other users :P

Test sets? There will be no consumer bet testing program. We do all the beta testing here with kits built with production tooling.

I think you mean testimonials from production kit users.

Chilicharger665 01-14-2014 08:19 PM

In my limited understanding of suspension, the shocks need to be valved to match the grip level of the tires, correct? If so, what kind of tires has the testing been done with and what class of tires will be ideal to run with these? I currently run 205/50 RE11's on 15x8 Enkei PF01's, for instance.


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