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Old 10-13-2014, 11:52 AM   #1
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I've been researching wheel studs and lug nuts, I wanted something a little more hefty holding my wheels on, and have pretty much decided on the ARP 100-7719 wheel studs. Next I started researching tuner style lug nuts and I didn't find very much information. I found some made by Varrstoen that weren't too expensive but were open ended. Then I found some Gorilla Automotive lug nuts that were closed ended. I wanted to use close ended lug nuts but I didn't know how long they needed to be with the longer studs. Could anyone shine light on the subject? If it helps anything, I do not plan on running spacers and my rims are 15x7 Rota Grids with +38 offset. I just want to find someone with personal experience with the product so I know they work.

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I have tuner style lug nuts.. and i'm not very happy with them. No defects, but if I lose the "KEY" i'm completely screwed. Larger items have gone missing or forgotten at home.
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I have tuner style lug nuts.. and i'm not very happy with them. No defects, but if I lose the "KEY" i'm completely screwed. Larger items have gone missing or forgotten at home.
Hey bud, thanks for the input! Are you running the factory studs, and what brand lug nuts did you go with? Losing the key isn't going to be a big issue for me, I've had a wheel lock on my other vehicles and I just keep the key in my glove box
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Hey bud, thanks for the input! Are you running the factory studs, and what brand lug nuts did you go with? Losing the key isn't going to be a big issue for me, I've had a wheel lock on my other vehicles and I just keep the key in my glove box
Running APR studs. 99% of the reason I have the tuner studs is because of the longer wheel studs. i'll probably switch up to the 949 racing lug nuts soon.
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FWIW you want a lug nut that matches the pitch of the hole on your wheel. If the pitch is off then you have an extremely small contact point and it does no good.

Don't buy from varrstoen, they're a ripoff shitty brand.
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^ ordering those!! edit..
that Link only has 3 left.. i found it @summit
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/go...FUsV7Aod2HgADg
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FWIW you want a lug nut that matches the pitch of the hole on your wheel. If the pitch is off then you have an extremely small contact point and it does no good.

Don't buy from varrstoen, they're a ripoff shitty brand.
Thank you everyone for your input! I really like those 949racing lug nuts, I think I'm going to give those a try, along with the ARP 100-7719 studs.

Erat, what you said makes perfect sense, but I can't find how tapered the lug nut seat is on the Rota Grids. The 949racing lug nuts have a 60 degree conical seat, but every time I try to find the size/shape of the lug nut seat on the Grids, it just says to use a tapered lug nut. Even the Rota website doesn't have the spec. Do you think these will work properly, or would you happen to know the spec?

Thanks again, everyone, for your reply!

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Most wheels use a 60* taper, just as most aftermarket lug nuts also have a 60* taper.

I have seen some OEM wheels / lug nuts use a different taper though. If you get into some knockoff or JDM wheels you may find a different taper too, i don't know.
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Most wheels use a 60* taper, just as most aftermarket lug nuts also have a 60* taper.

I have seen some OEM wheels / lug nuts use a different taper though. If you get into some knockoff or JDM wheels you may find a different taper too, i don't know.
Awesome, thanks for the info! I went ahead and ordered 4 Rota Grids 15x7 +38mm offset, 16 black aluminum 949racing lug nuts, 16 ARP studs, 4 Kumho XS 205/50r15 tires and four aluminum racing valve stems. Can't wait to get them all put on!

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I have some aluminium ebay ones that are the same style as 949 ones. I have no complaints but one time I didn't slide the socket all the way on the lug and I deformed it when I twisted on it with a breaker bar. I'm sure the 949 ones are better but still, be careful.
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I have some aluminium ebay ones that are the same style as 949 ones. I have no complaints but one time I didn't slide the socket all the way on the lug and I deformed it when I twisted on it with a breaker bar. I'm sure the 949 ones are better but still, be careful.
Thanks for the warning! I'll be sure to be careful. I've been told to avoid using air tools on aluminum lug nuts, but in the description of the 949 lug nuts it says they're tough enough to take it. But I think I'll stick with a breaker bar and torque wrench just to be safe, lol.

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I have some aluminium ebay ones that are the same style as 949 ones. I have no complaints but one time I didn't slide the socket all the way on the lug and I deformed it when I twisted on it with a breaker bar. I'm sure the 949 ones are better but still, be careful.
I'll vouch for the superiority of the 949 lug nuts. Once I accidentally used a 21mm socket to tighten them. The socket got stuck on because it was just the right size to bind up on the nut. Even after having to knock the socket of with a bfh the lug nut was still in pristine condition.
If I can't break these things, I doubt anyone with half a brain will have any trouble.
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I'll vouch for the superiority of the 949 lug nuts. Once I accidentally used a 21mm socket to tighten them. The socket got stuck on because it was just the right size to bind up on the nut. Even after having to knock the socket of with a bfh the lug nut was still in pristine condition.
If I can't break these things, I doubt anyone with half a brain will have any trouble.
That's good to hear! I made the mistake of buying an aluminum magnetic oil drain plug before, stripped out the second time I changed the oil, and I was even using the torque spec for the bolt. If they stripped out so easily, I was worried about going aluminum on my lug nuts. Maybe I just chose a crappy brand, lol.

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Went from OEM studs with tuner-style (Muteki closed SR35) lugnut to ARP studs with 949Racing lugnut.

Nothing to complain, both are doing a good job. But I do feel more confident about the 949Racing on a trackday.
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Went from OEM studs with tuner-style (Muteki closed SR35) lugnut to ARP studs with 949Racing lugnut.

Nothing to complain, both are doing a good job. But I do feel more confident about the 949Racing on a trackday.
Awesome! That's exactly what I just ordered. I'm glad you're not having any issues with them, it's definitely reassuring, lol.

Thanks for the reply!
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