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Old 08-10-2014, 10:27 AM   #221
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So, 7" front and rear then. That sounds good.

As far as rates, for a daily driver that I don't want to kill me on ride, but I still want to be firm and sporty, with the ability to auto-x it and maybe a hpde, do those sound good? (No room in the budget for a revalve right now.)

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So, 7" front and rear then. That sounds good.

As far as rates, for a daily driver that I don't want to kill me on ride, but I still want to be firm and sporty, with the ability to auto-x it and maybe a hpde, do those sound good? (No room in the budget for a revalve right now.)

Thanks again,

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And if you want the most adjustability out of the springs, pay attention to the sleeves you buy. See my post #217 in this thread.
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Old 08-10-2014, 02:32 PM   #223
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Those Allstar Performance sleeves and collars look remarkably similar to the AWR ones... down to the position of the set screw and adjustment holes.

If you like em (I know I certainly do) you may want to reach out to Cordycord...

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And if you want the most adjustability out of the springs, pay attention to the sleeves you buy. See my post #217 in this thread.
Thanks for the tip. Based on reading your post previously, I already have the Allstar sleeves and collars in my cart at Summit's website. Just trying to decide on spring rates and lengths.
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Thanks for the tip. Based on reading your post previously, I already have the Allstar sleeves and collars in my cart at Summit's website. Just trying to decide on spring rates and lengths.
I'd buy the 7" F/R at the rates you mentioned and be done with it.

You can overthink it.
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Old 08-11-2014, 08:58 AM   #226
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I'll be the fly in the honey. I'm running 425/300 and 12.5/12.75 (sorry, don't know pinch weld height; I'm a weeny.) I had to add helpers in the rear because the 7" 300lb springs become unloaded at full droop. These are from FCM, so NA HD bodies I think.

I considered going to 8" springs but am unsure how that would have worked out, so I played it safe and added zero rate helpers instead. New 8" springs are actually cheaper than helpers.
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i've been following the thread and i have a quetsion.
i have a set of tokicos with some ebay sleeves and unknown springs.
i'm not to worried about those tho...my quetsion is more aimed at thesetup

is anyone else using the tokico blues in place of the blisteins or koni yellows?
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i've been following the thread and i have a quetsion.
i have a set of tokicos with some ebay sleeves and unknown springs.
i'm not to worried about those tho...my quetsion is more aimed at thesetup

is anyone else using the tokico blues in place of the blisteins or koni yellows?

You're asking about Tokico Blues in a thread about Bilstein coilovers?


Just trying to clarify.
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You're asking about Tokico Blues in a thread about Bilstein coilovers?


Just trying to clarify.
yes.
well. eveyrhting else works just fine. but i cna see how this would be idiotic to ask...lol....moving on.
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i've been following the thread and i have a quetsion.
i have a set of tokicos with some ebay sleeves and unknown springs.
i'm not to worried about those tho...my quetsion is more aimed at thesetup

is anyone else using the tokico blues in place of the blisteins or koni yellows?
No,

Tokico blues suck.
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Spring rates I've just about settled on are 450/300. ...

Wanting those heights, with hd's and sleeves, what spring lengths should I be looking at? 7"f, 8" rear? 6/7?
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I ran 7" 450lb/in front and 7" 250lb/in in the rear for a while and found that I was running into coil bind issues. Enough that I popped half a circlip loose on the right rear shock. I ended up going to 7" 550 lb/in front and 8" 300lb/in in the rear and no more coil bind. 300 lb/in might be OK at 7". I just wanted to add my datapoint.
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I ran 7" 450lb/in front and 7" 250lb/in in the rear for a while and found that I was running into coil bind issues. Enough that I popped half a circlip loose on the right rear shock. I ended up going to 7" 550 lb/in front and 8" 300lb/in in the rear and no more coil bind. 300 lb/in might be OK at 7". I just wanted to add my datapoint.
With which tophats?
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NB tophats
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Does anyone know of a good source for the metal bushings that fit over the shock shafts, under the washers/top hats, besides Bilstein or FCM?
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For anyone thinking of using OTS NB HD Bilsteins on an NA, and wanting to be lower then 13" in the rear, think again. You'll also need ISC or equivalent top hats to not be riding on your bump stops.
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For anyone thinking of using OTS NB HD Bilsteins on an NA, and wanting to be lower then 13" in the rear, think again. You'll also need ISC or equivalent top hats to not be riding on your bump stops.
What top hats did you try and did you tighten everything after it was sitting on the wheels?

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Does anyone know of a good source for the metal bushings that fit over the shock shafts, under the washers/top hats, besides Bilstein or FCM?
Are you talking about these?



I got them here; TOUGHNUTZ™ - How It Works

Part # TNZ-17

I think most people just let the shafts float in the bushings though.
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The hardened bushing circled in red...
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The hardened bushing circled in red...
Can't help you there. Mine don't have them (and never had).
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What top hats did you try and did you tighten everything after it was sitting on the wheels?
Nb top hats. Out of fear of humiliation, which parts are you referring too? The top hats to the frame? Or the control arms? I did tighten the the top hats after. But not the control arms, is there some kind of voodoo magic that I'm missing?
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