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Lowering the cup that the shock sits in

Old Jun 9, 2011 | 12:14 PM
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Some guy over at clubroadster did it, probably to achieve moar slam, but it could also be used to add some suspension travel. Thoughts?
Old Jun 9, 2011 | 12:24 PM
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Great if you're building a rally car and need more stroke than tophats alone can provide.
Old Jun 9, 2011 | 12:26 PM
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/\ This. Basically fail/fail.
Old Jun 9, 2011 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rider384
but it could also be used to add some suspension travel. Thoughts?

If you increase the overall length, you will increase droop travel at the expensive of bump, since the tire is now further away from the top mount.

If you shorten the length, you risk putting the tire through the fender. This does not increase your shock's bump stroke.

Your upper articulation (full bump) should always be limited by the shock travel into the bumpstop. This is set by the length of the shock.



EDIT: oh wait I see what you're saying. let me mull it over.
Old Jun 9, 2011 | 12:54 PM
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this would be exactly the same thing if the shock was mounted in the oem location and the shock was shorted the exact distance between the two mounting points.


the best way to add travel would be to remove fenders, install NC rear top mounts and really longer springs/shocks.
Old Jun 9, 2011 | 01:08 PM
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Also, this would not work AT ALL up front.
Old Jun 10, 2011 | 09:33 AM
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it would add some travel to the bump stop but that low i don't think there is any travel from the tire to the fender
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it would only increase bump travel if the shock body length was kept the same lenght. Problem is that will put the tire through the fender.



This shows the bump travel of the scenario of lowered shock mounts vs. oem, all others things being equal. You can see the bump travel does increase, but at the risk of sending the tire through the fender.
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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 09:40 AM
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In for positive camber gain in the rear, that should drive well.
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Originally Posted by hustler
In for positive camber gain in the rear, that should drive well.
Yellow rimz bro, he dont care.
Old Jun 10, 2011 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by shlammed
Yellow rimz bro, he dont care.
+1. Who gives a **** how it drives. Its mad herrafrush.
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lol @ the haterz
Old Jun 12, 2011 | 06:14 AM
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It would let you lengthen the shock body and the rod the same amount as you lowered the mounting cup. Obviously bump travel is limited by the top of the tire touching the top of the wheel well, but you could significantly increase droop travel if you were to have custom-length shocks made for the application.

On one hand, it would help a lot on exit, since it would help the IR maintain contact with the ground (and thus limit IR wheelspin). On the other hand, the sway bar kind of dictates IR droop, so there's definitely some diminishing returns.
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