Is this true for FCM mounts as well? They use NB top hats but say they add 1" of suspension travel. ?

 

NB hats add about 3/4 of travel, no idea on FCM version. If your getting your shocks revalved its cheaper to have them shortened, than buying 4 isc hats. If your running stock valved its cheaper to get the nb front/isc rear combo. You can also get some factory honda bump stops which will help if you have na ones.

 

they add a touch more due the those slim bushings.

 

I just ordered a set, they'll be here later today.

I'll share my thoughts after I install and play with them..

 

I don't think these are sold in the USA, but I use Gaz Gold Pro coilovers and they come in at around £600, so ~ $970.

They're used in the http://www.ma5daracing.com/ racing series in the UK and I rate them.

 

that's pretty expensive!

 

derpy derpy

 

Don't know about anyone else, but I vote sticky for this thread. Lots of great information. Thanks guys

 

I've had my Steward Dev. revalved shocks on the car now for 3 autoX's and a hillclimb and I've been VERY impressed with them on and off the track. Running lower rates right not (550/350) but will be stepping it up to a 700/400 or so setup in th next few weeks. The shocks soak up every bump way better then stock Bilstiens.

 

so I got some seat time with a set of JRZ DA's. Yeah there's a good difference. but I'm still a cheap ***

 

Just noticed that Tein updated their low-end coilovers.

http://949racing.com/tein-basis-coilover-miata.aspx
http://949racing.com/tein-advance-coilover-Miata.aspx

I'm curious about the standard rates -- 390# front and 340# rear (7kg and 6kg). Does Tein know something the rest of the Miata world does not? I also notice that Emilio offers some spring rate options that would let you move back toward a conventional front/rear difference.

 

They work really well for me. I feel like the car is much more balanced than ever berfore. and that's coming from FM, 500/300, 400/250, to teins.

I do have my front bar in the stiffest position. Front shocks on full soft (16 clicks) rears on 14 clicks. stock rear bar.

 

You have the new version? Advance or Basis?

The whole spring rate thing wigs me out...we've got conventional knowledge that recommends a ratio of something like 1.5 to 1 or maybe 1.75 to 1.

And then a reputable suspension vendor like Tein uses a ratio of 1.17 to 1.

And I have driven on those H&R coilovers that are a claimed 1 to 1 ratio...and despite everyone at m.net claiming they'd be oversteer monsters and my car would swap ends as I pulled out of my driveway and then do donuts in my front lawn and eat my dog, the car was very balanced.

What gives?

 

old flexes with 7/6kg. oversteer on my car is predictable and manageable.

 

250 - racelands
300 - used bilsteins, ebay coilover 450/350 - value
400 - used FM's stage 2.5 v1
450 - tokico illumina,ebay coilover 450/350
450 - kyb agx,ebay coils,qa1 350/250,nb tophats
500 - used bilsteins, ebay collars, qa1 springs 700/400, nb top hats
595 - FM V-max
600 - Megan Racing Street ('90-'05, new) 450/335 - adjustable monotube
750 - koni sports, collars, qa1 springs
800 - revalved bilsteins, ebay collars, qa1 springs 700/400, nb top hats
800 - used tein flex - value
800 - D2 RS
850 - tein basic
930 - P5 sportdrive
940 - FM's stage 1.5 v2
1000 - D2 custom valved and sprung
1100 - tein ss
1129 - Stance GR+
1150 - D2 custom valved and sprung
1200 - koni race, collars, qa1 springs
1300 - KW Variant 1
1400 - bilstein pss9
1500 - tein flex
1650 - fatcat
1799 - Xida CS *
1800 - tein mono flex
1900 - jic magic a2
2000 - afco
2100 - v2 fatcats
2350 - Ohlins PCV
2389 - XIDA-S
3000 - Ohlins DFV
3600 - Moton Club Sports
3700?- JRZ Double Adjustable
3800 - Xida
3960 - Koni 2812




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The standard rates on the Tein's are indeed wrong for stock sway bars. I have tried to educate the engineers at Tein to no avail. Gave up years ago. Run a 1.125" front sway bar with stock rear and a set of Tein's with 7/6 rates and it's good. For R compounds or RS3's I suggest upping the front rates to 9/6 with the Advance or 10/6 with Flex.

 

it makes me feel better about myself when i say something and emilio says something to similar effect.

 

How retarded is it for me to have 600/400 springs on my daily with 1.8 RB front and rear swaybars? I've never put that car on the track so I don't know what to expect. I have minivan rubber on it to, but it drifts nicely.

 

Which dampers?

The RB rear bar is kinda big. I'd expect that car to be a bit loose everywhere assuming something close to correct camber.

 

You would benefit at the track with a stock rear but your bias now would be fun o. The street with those roadhandler tires