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Old 01-07-2011, 03:23 PM
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Is this true for FCM mounts as well? They use NB top hats but say they add 1" of suspension travel. ?
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Old 01-07-2011, 06:36 PM
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NB hats add about 3/4 of travel, no idea on FCM version. If your getting your shocks revalved its cheaper to have them shortened, than buying 4 isc hats. If your running stock valved its cheaper to get the nb front/isc rear combo. You can also get some factory honda bump stops which will help if you have na ones.
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Old 01-07-2011, 06:37 PM
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they add a touch more due the those slim bushings.
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at $630 shipped, I'd like to learn more about the megan racing setup.
I just ordered a set, they'll be here later today.

I'll share my thoughts after I install and play with them..
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Old 05-19-2011, 01:03 PM
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I don't think these are sold in the USA, but I use Gaz Gold Pro coilovers and they come in at around 600, so ~ $970.

They're used in the http://www.ma5daracing.com/ racing series in the UK and I rate them.
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Old 05-25-2011, 03:24 PM
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that's pretty expensive!
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Don't know about anyone else, but I vote sticky for this thread. Lots of great information. Thanks guys
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Old 06-07-2011, 05:36 PM
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I've had my Steward Dev. revalved shocks on the car now for 3 autoX's and a hillclimb and I've been VERY impressed with them on and off the track. Running lower rates right not (550/350) but will be stepping it up to a 700/400 or so setup in th next few weeks. The shocks soak up every bump way better then stock Bilstiens.
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so I got some seat time with a set of JRZ DA's. Yeah there's a good difference. but I'm still a cheap ***
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Just noticed that Tein updated their low-end coilovers.

http://949racing.com/tein-basis-coilover-miata.aspx
http://949racing.com/tein-advance-coilover-Miata.aspx

I'm curious about the standard rates -- 390# front and 340# rear (7kg and 6kg). Does Tein know something the rest of the Miata world does not? I also notice that Emilio offers some spring rate options that would let you move back toward a conventional front/rear difference.
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:48 AM
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They work really well for me. I feel like the car is much more balanced than ever berfore. and that's coming from FM, 500/300, 400/250, to teins.

I do have my front bar in the stiffest position. Front shocks on full soft (16 clicks) rears on 14 clicks. stock rear bar.
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You have the new version? Advance or Basis?

The whole spring rate thing wigs me out...we've got conventional knowledge that recommends a ratio of something like 1.5 to 1 or maybe 1.75 to 1.

And then a reputable suspension vendor like Tein uses a ratio of 1.17 to 1.

And I have driven on those H&R coilovers that are a claimed 1 to 1 ratio...and despite everyone at m.net claiming they'd be oversteer monsters and my car would swap ends as I pulled out of my driveway and then do donuts in my front lawn and eat my dog, the car was very balanced.

What gives?
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:55 AM
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old flexes with 7/6kg. oversteer on my car is predictable and manageable.
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250 - racelands
300 - used bilsteins, ebay coilover 450/350 - value
400 - used FM's stage 2.5 v1
450 - tokico illumina,ebay coilover 450/350
450 - kyb agx,ebay coils,qa1 350/250,nb tophats
500 - used bilsteins, ebay collars, qa1 springs 700/400, nb top hats
595 - FM V-max
600 - Megan Racing Street ('90-'05, new) 450/335 - adjustable monotube
750 - koni sports, collars, qa1 springs
800 - revalved bilsteins, ebay collars, qa1 springs 700/400, nb top hats
800 - used tein flex - value
800 - D2 RS
850 - tein basic
930 - P5 sportdrive
940 - FM's stage 1.5 v2
1000 - D2 custom valved and sprung
1100 - tein ss
1129 - Stance GR+
1150 - D2 custom valved and sprung
1200 - koni race, collars, qa1 springs
1300 - KW Variant 1
1400 - bilstein pss9
1500 - tein flex
1650 - fatcat
1799 - Xida CS *
1800 - tein mono flex
1900 - jic magic a2
2000 - afco
2100 - v2 fatcats
2350 - Ohlins PCV
2389 - XIDA-S
3000 - Ohlins DFV
3600 - Moton Club Sports
3700?- JRZ Double Adjustable
3800 - Xida
3960 - Koni 2812




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The standard rates on the Tein's are indeed wrong for stock sway bars. I have tried to educate the engineers at Tein to no avail. Gave up years ago. Run a 1.125" front sway bar with stock rear and a set of Tein's with 7/6 rates and it's good. For R compounds or RS3's I suggest upping the front rates to 9/6 with the Advance or 10/6 with Flex.
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it makes me feel better about myself when i say something and emilio says something to similar effect.
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Originally Posted by emilio700 View Post
The standard rates on the Tein's are indeed wrong for stock sway bars. I have tried to educate the engineers at Tein to no avail. Gave up years ago. Run a 1.125" front sway bar with stock rear and a set of Tein's with 7/6 rates and it's good. For R compounds or RS3's I suggest upping the front rates to 9/6 with the Advance or 10/6 with Flex.
How retarded is it for me to have 600/400 springs on my daily with 1.8 RB front and rear swaybars? I've never put that car on the track so I don't know what to expect. I have minivan rubber on it to, but it drifts nicely.
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How retarded is it for me to have 600/400 springs on my daily with 1.8 RB front and rear swaybars? I've never put that car on the track so I don't know what to expect. I have minivan rubber on it to, but it drifts nicely.
Which dampers?

The RB rear bar is kinda big. I'd expect that car to be a bit loose everywhere assuming something close to correct camber.
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Old 06-08-2012, 01:33 AM
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You would benefit at the track with a stock rear but your bias now would be fun o. The street with those roadhandler tires
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