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Old 01-25-2010, 10:01 PM   #101
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I think it looks alright. Id pick up some used 6ul first though, lol.
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Yup, 6UL is lighter, stronger and it looks WAY better IMO - no doubt the cheap posers will want to save a couple bucks even though it is an inferior wheel.

You can also drop a 3-4 lbs on each front corners by ditching the pig-heavy stock calipers and brackets and switching to some wilwood calipers and 2 piece rotors.
Cheap posers?
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Old 01-25-2010, 10:13 PM   #103
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OK so TR has copied the fitment but not the design, is cheaper, but a lot heavier. 949 still has the corner on the market for width/weight.

I like Emilio a lot too, but I don't think TR "ripped him off".

In many business cases, when one comes up with a new idea, the way to make money is to sell as many as possible until the cheaper copycats come along. I hope Emilio's made a ton of money, he deserves it.

Anyone who makes a ton of money by producing a product that has a better price/performance ratio than the competition, which customers voluntarily and happily buy, deserves the money. This is the essence of Free Market Capitalism. I don't care if Emilio uses the money to support his racing habit, or buy hookers and blow, or he throws the dollar bills into his fireplace - that's his choice (as long as he doesn't hurt anyone with the money).
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Old 01-25-2010, 10:25 PM   #104
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i love how you guys are talking about a gain in unsprung weight. compared to what? if i already had 6ul's i wouldn't be looking at tr's. i'm guessing that most people interested in these have normal wheels which weigh 13-15lbs or more already. maybe i'm dropping 1-2 lbs. per wheel compared to my old ones and getting a 9" wide wheel in the process. also, it's already been tested, width makes a bigger difference than weight, unless your talkin' about 20lb. wheels or something.
and to be honest, if i were going for looks, it wouldn't be either the tr or 6uls.
hell even the new sportmax (xxr) 522's look way better than both of these imho.

EDIT: lol, in for the hookers and blow! emilio knows how to party!
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Old 01-26-2010, 04:35 AM   #105
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I'd be afraid to get these TR wheels for track days based solely on the disdain and ridicule I would bring upon myself by showing up to a track day with other miatas present with the TR wheels on my car. At this point, a 15x9 TR wheel-wearing miata could set a new top time at a track and everyone else would probably disregard it because the car's owner is a sellout.
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My last racing wheels I purchased were 6ULs and the next will be also. Bummer I cant get any replacements for my set. :(

Anyone want to sell their spare 15x8 +40 Gen I?
I'll sell you my whole set.
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Since these wheels seem to be marketed toward the street wheel buyers more so than the hardcore track guys, Tirerack should use their influence to get a real 15 inch street tire in a good size for the friggin' wheel. How about a 245-45-15 Extreme summer tire?

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Old 01-27-2010, 09:37 AM   #108
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Since these wheels seem to be marketed toward the street wheel buyers more so than the hardcore track guys, Tirerack should use their influence to get a real 15 inch street tire in a good size for the friggin' wheel. How about a 245-45-15 Extreme summer tire?

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wouldn't that be smart
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I'd be afraid to get these TR wheels for track days based solely on the disdain and ridicule I would bring upon myself by showing up to a track day with other miatas present with the TR wheels on my car. At this point, a 15x9 TR wheel-wearing miata could set a new top time at a track and everyone else would probably disregard it because the car's owner is a sellout.

Not surprising.. you people in CA are indeed that shallow

I'd rock the TRs...just because I like how they look. I don't get why anyone is bitching about the color...for the price, ******* spray paint the damn things to whatever gay rainbow you want.
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wouldn't that be smart
Much smarter to make it 245/40-15 so the diameter would be right. I expect the size to come out in a full R-comp first, from someone like BFG or Hoosier. That's where you're going to see experiments on low volume numbers like this. I know the BFG molds are modular, so they could pretty easily make it based on the 205/50-15 stuff, but they aren't really into risks. Hoosier obviously is willing to get crazy. They are doing the 275 now, and they were the first to do the 225/45-15.
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I endorse the message!

I don't really get this either, if you like them you like them if you don't I can't imagine why you would even care about them. The wheels are just another option for those of us that just haven't been able to swing a set of UL, or anything else. I think they look fine, however I prefer my paid for Kosei's more.
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Not surprising.. you people in CA are indeed that shallow
Scroll up a few rows and remember that JasonC lives here, too. It's the straight men from Texas you see swinging from Emilio's nuts in this thread.
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I prefer my paid for Kosei's more.
If they made a high-offset K1 in 15x8, I'd rock it all day long.
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If they made a high-offset K1 in 15x8, I'd rock it all day long.
+ a billion! or maybe even a 15x9.
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Much smarter to make it 245/40-15 so the diameter would be right. I expect the size to come out in a full R-comp first, from someone like BFG or Hoosier. That's where you're going to see experiments on low volume numbers like this. I know the BFG molds are modular, so they could pretty easily make it based on the 205/50-15 stuff, but they aren't really into risks. Hoosier obviously is willing to get crazy. They are doing the 275 now, and they were the first to do the 225/45-15.
For most racers out there, does the cost savings of these and the ability to run the Hoosiers on the track outweigh the weight penalty vs the 6ULs? If it doesn't, then TR is obviously aiming these at the street market. Thus my request for a wider tire be it in a 40 or 45 series in an EHP or UHP.

I'll bet a large part of Emilios sales go to guys who will never track their car. Hell, that's what my 6ULs are for.
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which are cheaper 6ul's or tr's? lol jk

if i wanted track wheels id buy 6ul's no doubt. if i wanted dd'ing wheels id stick with the tr motorsports. i think thats whats going to happen really with most people. good luck in future sales emilio, no sarcasm here. i hate big businesses taking other smaller businesses ideas.
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15x9 or 15x8 DD is for posin'.

For DD 195's or 205's are plenty, even for tearin' up mt. roads.
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15x9 or 15x8 DD is for posin'.

For DD 195's or 205's are plenty, even for tearin' up mt. roads.
Negative. At 14psi, I can't floor it in first gear on 15x8 6ULs w/ 225 RS-2s without spinning the tires.
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15x9 or 15x8 DD is for posin'.

For DD 195's or 205's are plenty, even for tearin' up mt. roads.
rofl no way i would be able to drive the way i wanted with anymore than about 200 whp on tap on some puny *** 205's Unless they where slicks
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BS I ran 195's and 205's for years with 240 whp running Azenis class tires. I switched to a 3.9 diff from 4.3 to solve the 1st gear hookup problem. They won't spin if it's warm out.

I never said there was anyting wrong with posin' BTW. Pose away.
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