Maybe less than 30 times total. I haven't used it since MRLS last year.

FWIW i have an ACT HD w/ 6 puck sprung clutch. MT90 in the tranny with less than 4k miles on it (the fluid, aprox 70k on the tranny itself).

ive heard this before, the msm and 01+ trans are the same, they advertise the cryo/shotpeened gears on the msm as a selling feature, if you knew a sport had em, less reason for you to buy a msm, i guess.

They upgraded the halfshafts for the MSM, though. I wouldn't be surprised if they shotpeened only the MSM boxes.

4k for fluid on a trans that sees track duty? That seems like a bit long.

sounds like there are a bunch of people with extra parts. Anyone happen to have a 99-00 shifter for a 6speed? The one with 2 slots?

how many trips to the track did it see in those 4k miles?

I've got a good front and middle housing. Sounds like if we all get together we can build a six speed

Where is everyone getting there 6-speeds from?

It seems whenever i need one, i can't find one.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/pts/1741452545.html

cl mystery 6spd ('99) for 800, but that may not be an upgrade

random crap generator just produced:

fwiw, quaife gearset (5spd) for $1876

http://www.autotech.com/quaife/news.htm

lol

Quck question for you guys that might know. I'm going to build a 1.8 to drop in my 91 but the syncro in 3rd in my 1.6 is iffy. Can I put a 6 speed in my 1.6 without modification and then put it on the 1.8 when I'm done with the build? Or will it require some modification to go on the 1.6 that will inable me to put on the 1.8 when I'm ready?

short answer: yes

a 5-speed from a '94 will bolt right into a '90, and a 6-speed from an '04 will bolt right into a '94.

By that logic, a 6-speed from an '04 will bolt right into a '90. You will use your 1.6 driveshaft, and speed sensor assembly. You will cut the wiring connectors from one of your 5-speed tranny sensors and solder them onto the associated 6-speed tranny sensor. (remove the single black plastic connector on the 6-speed to solder on the 2 bullet connectors from the 5-speed) The 2 white plastic connectors are unchanged from '90 - 2004.

Is sodering necessary? can wire crimps not work or just not as sturdy? I would think a soder might short somehow if it got wet? dont mean to sound retarted but do you or any one know of a link that some one did this with pics? I have a MSM rear end I need to put in and I was looking for a MSM tranny but I acnt find one for under a G....are they worth it? I found another 5 speed for $125 in good shape. one more gear and some stirdyness for almost $900 more dollars.:vash:

Some claim that the MSM transmission was made stronger with shot-peened gears

There are no unique, identifying part numbers/diagrams/etc. that would act as proof that there are 2 seperate types of gears for the MSM vs. Non-MSM transmissions.

A common thought is that all 6-speed gears are shot-peened, the MSM's just used it as a selling point.

You could use wire crimps as the circuit is not a potentiometer; but rather, it is a simple open/closed circuit. Perfect continuity is not paramount in the application. For the love of god, don't use wire nuts.

A solder joint will not short out if it gets wet, assuming you've properly insulated the wiring, which you would do anyways if you crimped it. After you have completed the wiring, regardless of crimp, solder, or nut, you will always insulate the wire. The best way is with heat shrink tubing, electrical taped at the ends. The most common way (and not necessarily a bad way) is simply to electrical tape both joints seperately, and then e-tape them together.

With regard to your MSM rear end. You will require the MSM axles to finish the install, as the MSM rear end will not mate up with N/A axles. If you do not have the MSM axles, do not attempt to install the MSM rear end. Any NA/NB transmission will mate up with any NA/NB rear end, driveshafts must match the rear end (1.6 rear end uses a longer driveshaft)

Thanks, I have the axles and drive shaft from a 94+ (not exactly sure what year but I've read any will work) I just need a carrier casing and it's impossible to find for a reasonable price. Anyone have a spare?:x:

you're planning to use regular '94+ axles with the MSM rear end?

if so, re-read my previous post, again and agin, until it makes sense

Driveshaft from any 1.8 will work with the MSM rear.

You are correct. I am not arguing with you.

Go back a third time, and re-read my post again and again...until you understand, without question...I'll even quote it for you so you dont have to waste time scrolling up:


Here's a cheat sheet.

The driveshaft will work. The axles will not.

I'm sorry, I see where you got confused on my initial post.....

Fixed;)