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levnubhin 07-12-2010 02:00 PM

That really sucks to hear.
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Splitime 07-12-2010 02:04 PM

WTF. I just put one in, then again I won't ever push past 250whp... so I should be fine :p

hustler 07-12-2010 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by johnwag (Post 593402)
Matt's exhaust is like 2 feet long......

Time to heat shield the downpipe and trans from each other and re-test.....

The sticker is on the passenger side, faggette. Never come into a thread and talk shit to me again. Now I have to get back to playing on My XBox.

minime 07-12-2010 02:14 PM

Has anyone destroyed a quaife gear box yet?

chpmnsws6 07-12-2010 02:22 PM

Time to make an adapter plate for a TKO600...

miatauser884 07-12-2010 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 600279)
Bump, I lost my 6-speed at Laguna this weekend. Steady pull in 4th and it let go. :(

Any insight as to why it let go? I'm curious as to whether it is a torque related failure, or possibly heat related. IF it's getting too hot, maybe we need to look into the gear oil that is being used. Anyone know how the Lucas oil stabalizer holds up to heat? The standard formula can be used as gear oil. I run it in the diff.

Savington 07-12-2010 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by djp0623 (Post 600315)
Any insight as to why it let go? I'm curious as to whether it is a torque related failure, or possibly heat related. IF it's getting too hot, maybe we need to look into the gear oil that is being used. Anyone know how the Lucas oil stabalizer holds up to heat? The standard formula can be used as gear oil. I run it in the diff.

I think a year of severe road course use at 270-300whp is probably what did it. Nothing lasts forever in road race cars. I'll UOA the oil to see if a cooler will improve longevity, but I'm going to put another 6-speed into it.

Savington 08-03-2010 02:43 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 600323)
I'll UOA the oil to see if a cooler will improve longevity

Got the UOA results back today, no signs of viscosity breakdown or increased insolubles = no overheating fluid. It still might help, but there's no immediate tranny temp problem that needs to be solved ASAP (at least not in my car).

bbundy 08-03-2010 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 611322)
Got the UOA results back today, no signs of viscosity breakdown or increased insolubles = no overheating fluid. It still might help, but there's no immediate tranny temp problem that needs to be solved ASAP (at least not in my car).

Good info to know, I sort of suspected based on looking at my fluid it never seemed burnt.

Thanks

Bob

hustler 08-03-2010 09:31 PM

250whp feels great when it comes to transmissions.

Import Al 08-03-2010 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by chpmnsws6 (Post 600309)
Time to make an adapter plate for a TKO600...

You probably think T-56's are for pussies lol.

TKO's are badass. Bunch of gearsets, 600 lb/ft rating, compact,
new, warrantied & made by Americans etc.

I've seen them as cheap as $1500 new, but you'd still need an adapter.

I've read of a few S2000 drivers using them; their Aisin 6-speeds are similar to Miatas & die pretty quickly from drag racing above 300 wtq.
Here's an S2000 tunnel shot of a TKO-600 (& LSX), should fit pretty nicely in a Miata.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...headers013.jpg

spd579 08-04-2010 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by Import Al (Post 611813)
You probably think T-56's are for pussies lol.

TKO's are badass. Bunch of gearsets, 600 lb/ft rating, compact,
new, warrantied & made by Americans etc.

I've seen them as cheap as $1500 new, but you'd still need an adapter.

I've read of a few S2000 drivers using them; their Aisin 6-speeds are similar to Miatas & die pretty quickly from drag racing above 300 wtq.
Here's an S2000 tunnel shot of a TKO-600 (& LSX), should fit pretty nicely in a Miata.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...headers013.jpg

So we would need a LSX to mate up to this tranny I'm guessing?

hustler 08-04-2010 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by spd579 (Post 611914)
So we would need a LSX to mate up to this tranny I'm guessing?

You should try reading that post again.

spd579 08-04-2010 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 611920)
You should try reading that post again.

haha yea...adapter....:idea:

delcbr 10-14-2010 11:45 AM

Hi I got in touch with a U.K based oil specialist.
asking best oils for our gearboxes I mentioned they strip teeth when we start to make higher power so asked for an oil to try prevent this from happening.
here is what they wrote back:
Hi Derek

I'd go for a good 75w-90 ester oil for the gearbox, the Fuchs Syn 5, Millers CRX NT and Motul Gear 300 would be very good choices.

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-673-75w-90.aspx

I would say a good 5w-40 would probably be the way to go, unless you are getting high (over 125C) oil temps, then a 10w-50 is the best choice.

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-659-10w-50.aspx

Out of those, the best ones are the Fuchs/Silkolene Pro S, Millers CFS, Motul 300V, Redline and Gulf Competition. They are all really good oils and up to dealing with the modifications.

Regards

Tim

OPIE OILS

For recommendations please visitwww.opieoils.co.uk


Ester oils are the top oils on the market as they are more stable at higher temperatures, leave a layer of oil over the inside of the engine/gearbox/diff (like the Castrol Magnatec adverts claim) and in general are better lubricants.

The Redline Lightweight Shockproof is also a good choice to use, it's also ester based.

Regards

Tim

hustler 10-14-2010 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by delcbr (Post 643052)
Hi I got in touch with a U.K based oil specialist.
asking best oils for our gearboxes I mentioned they strip teeth when we start to make higher power so asked for an oil to try prevent this from happening.
here is what they wrote back:
Hi Derek

I'd go for a good 75w-90 ester oil for the gearbox, the Fuchs Syn 5, Millers CRX NT and Motul Gear 300 would be very good choices.

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-673-75w-90.aspx

I would say a good 5w-40 would probably be the way to go, unless you are getting high (over 125C) oil temps, then a 10w-50 is the best choice.

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-659-10w-50.aspx

Out of those, the best ones are the Fuchs/Silkolene Pro S, Millers CFS, Motul 300V, Redline and Gulf Competition. They are all really good oils and up to dealing with the modifications.

Regards

Tim

OPIE OILS

For recommendations please visitwww.opieoils.co.uk


Ester oils are the top oils on the market as they are more stable at higher temperatures, leave a layer of oil over the inside of the engine/gearbox/diff (like the Castrol Magnatec adverts claim) and in general are better lubricants.

The Redline Lightweight Shockproof is also a good choice to use, it's also ester based.

Regards

Tim

Why are you whoring this misinformation?

Savington 10-29-2010 06:38 AM

Just FYI for everyone, TrackDayHookey lost his 6-speed at the last Miata Challenge event at the beginning of October. Same failure mode as mine, steady pull in 4th gear. Similar power, less torque than I make. That makes 3 power-related failures this year that I know of (JayL, me, and TDH). All 3 boxes saw prolonged hard abuse at well over 300whp. If I blow another before next summer, a different gearbox may be in order.

Fireindc 10-29-2010 06:48 AM

Will you make a TSE conversion kit of some sort? Which gearbox do you have in mind?

Marko 11-02-2010 03:16 PM

Would the RX-7 FD tranny be a better and stronger option for a high hp Miata than the 6 speed?

Reverant 11-02-2010 03:25 PM

Oh definitely. They've lasted on two 400whp Miatas here in Greece. We had one that snapped the input shaft on a 480 FD-powered RX-8.


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