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Old 07-31-2013, 12:44 PM   #81
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No problem.

On the previous pages you mention choosing a 10" disc for the rear to get close to the correct bias with a prop valve being almost open.

Is that for the 11.75" front kit, or the 11" front kit? I have a prop valve installed already, so it's not a big deal, just curious.

Aside from the 11.75" likely being a bit overkill for an HPDE/TT car that will never go forced induction, I don't think it would fit under the current 15x8 Konig Flatouts that sit on the car.
Powerlites on a 10" rotor will give more rear bias than 1.8 calipers on Sport rotors, but less rear bias than OEM Sport rear brakes. It's a good match for 11" or 11.75" kits.

The 11.75" isn't really overkill for anything, so long as you can fit it under your wheels. You just get better pad life and improved pedal feel over any 11" kit, which is something anyone can take advantage of.
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Powerlites on a 10" rotor will give more rear bias than 1.8 calipers on Sport rotors, but less rear bias than OEM Sport rear brakes. It's a good match for 11" or 11.75" kits.

The 11.75" isn't really overkill for anything, so long as you can fit it under your wheels. You just get better pad life and improved pedal feel over any 11" kit, which is something anyone can take advantage of.
As usual, thanks for all the info.

However, I'm confused on the last part. The SuperMiata 11" and 11.75" kits both use the same Dynalite caliper, correct?

I understand the increased feel through the extra leverage/torque of the larger rotor, but I don't get how that increases pad life? Extra heat sink capacity allows the pad to run marginally cooler, or ?
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As usual, thanks for all the info.

However, I'm confused on the last part. The SuperMiata 11" and 11.75" kits both use the same Dynalite caliper, correct?

I understand the increased feel through the extra leverage/torque of the larger rotor, but I don't get how that increases pad life? Extra heat sink capacity allows the pad to run marginally cooler, or ?
Larger aluminum hat with more attachment points (8 vs 6) draws heat out of the rotor more effectively. The big benefit here is that you can get away with very, very long bleed intervals on an 11.75" kit if you aren't really beating it up.

SuperMiata doesn't have an 11.75" kit AFAIK. The only 11.75" kit with proper bias I know of is our Trackspeed kit.
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As usual, thanks for all the info.

However, I'm confused on the last part. The SuperMiata 11" and 11.75" kits both use the same Dynalite caliper, correct?

I understand the increased feel through the extra leverage/torque of the larger rotor, but I don't get how that increases pad life? Extra heat sink capacity allows the pad to run marginally cooler, or ?
The SuperMiata 11" and 11.75" kits utilize the same 120-6806 Wilwood caliper that the TSE 11.75 uses.

Pad wear is directly related to temperatures. Cooler pads are longer lasting pads. Pad life would be the same between all the various kits utilizing the 120-6806 caliper, if the rotors had the exact same thermal mass/inertia, but they don't. If pad wear is of high importance, get the coolest running system possible. Our coolest running kit is the 11.75" with the HD36 rings.

Our 11 and 11.75" kits come with your choice of economy straight vane or HD directional vane rotors. Street/canyon with occasional autocross on a low to medium powered car, the straight vanes get the job done. Track use and/or high powered, you want the directionals. Notice the vanes in the econo rotor are only about 3/4 height and don't reach to the outer rim. They're also thinner section than our SPM 11" or HD36 directional rotors. Additionally, the iron alloy used in the directionals is superior in strength and uniformity to the 160-5840 and 160-0471. The econos are cast in Mexico with an alloy only used in Wilwoods econo and ultralite line. The HD36 and our SPM directionals are cast in the US with a higher grade (and more expensive) alloy.

Bias wise, I like the 11" front with standard 1.8 rears, one compound stagger between them. We run XP10 front, XP8 rear on our cars. For the SPM 11.75" front kit, we recommend the 10.9" Sport rears. You can use our rear BRK to adapt Sport rotors and calipers to a 94-01. If you have an NA6, you'll need OEM NA8 or NB1 (same) rear caliper carriers to run the BRK. Alternatively, you can just source an entire OEM rear sport set up and bolt to your NA6 uprights.

The Sport rear caliper has a slightly larger piston than the 94-01 1.8 caliper. For track use with 205's or hard compound 225's and no aero, the standard 1.8 rears on sport rotors with 11.75 fronts is perfect. Add rear grip by running Hoosiers, more weight or a wing and the Sport calipers are a better option with the 11.75 fronts. Running an 11" front, standard 1.8 rear setup has the advantage of being significantly lighter than any other combination and what we run on our race cars. With the addition of TSE's rear Wilwood 9.8" kit, it will be even lighter.


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Don't happen to have a template for your 11.75" kit do you?

EDIT: Skipped over your last sentence. 11" and 10" is perfect, I'm trying to get the car as light as possible.

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Playing around with this idea will let you ladies know how it works out.
Mini cooper 11.5 inch rotors
Sentra SE-R Spec V brembos (4 piston)
Some fab work requires to redrill new mounting holes no brackets!
17mm spacer to fit the current 2001 NB wheels (5spoke I believe)
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It's taken longer than expected to get pre-production V2 rear hats. With any luck we'll have them on the car for some test miles next weekend.
Any closer to releasing the rear kit?
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