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Truckinduc 08-31-2016 12:12 PM

Hard to buy a set of wheels knowing they won't fit your brake setup, even if other 15s do fit.

Here is the last project I just finished. 7lb fully adjustable sheet spindles and control arms for an frs. I built this setup to fit in the 17" rpf1. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...a8ca6109c.jpeg


Truckinduc 08-31-2016 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1357832)
aint happenin hoss.
last time Emilio shared anything TR went and ripped off all his measurements and made competitor wheels with em. he was so mad I thought he would break the intewebz (and I would be too). He's still mad about it, like 8 years later. Just buy a set of his wheels :)

I am not aware of this, but it makes sense.

Joker 05-22-2017 04:55 PM

Can anyone confirm these will fit over front Wilwood BBK and rear Sport brakes?

concealer404 05-22-2017 04:59 PM

9 and 10 yes. Unsure if 8s have been tested. Trackspeed has the info on their site.

I just got my 10s last week. I will not be buying these again. Of course, i say this now, but it'll really come down to what is in stock next time. I would have bought 6ULs, but with only THREE (how useless) being in stock at the time, had to find another option.

Joker 05-22-2017 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1416410)
9 and 10 yes. Unsure if 8s have been tested. Trackspeed has the info on their site.

I just got my 10s last week. I will not be buying these again. Of course, i say this now, but it'll really come down to what is in stock next time. I would have bought 6ULs, but with only THREE (how useless) being in stock at the time, had to find another option.

Thanks for the quick response homie.

I'm on that same boat right now, and trying to convince myself not to go this route. 6-8 Week waiting time for 10s at 949..

I cant find that info at trackspeed, do you have a link? id like to know how much these guys weigh.

concealer404 05-22-2017 05:09 PM

I weighed my set at 15.2lbs using my super accurate bathroom scale.

Trackspeed 11.75 Gen2 Big Brake Kit

Scroll down for fitment confirmations.

Junkwhale 05-22-2017 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1416410)
I just got my 10s last week. I will not be buying these again. Of course, i say this now, but it'll really come down to what is in stock next time. I would have bought 6ULs, but with only THREE (how useless) being in stock at the time, had to find another option.

Is it just the availability / slow supply chain pushing you not to buy the Jongbloeds again or something else?

I have the 9's in bronze and was considering getting 10s as well. I want to like 6ULs as everything else about them is great, but the design's just never done anything for me.

concealer404 05-22-2017 07:09 PM

Availability and that this set came in 3-4 weeks later than originally expected, which set into motion a pretty ugly chain of events, culminating in missing a track day/forfeiting reg fees. I'm not actually MAD about it, because there's really nobody to be mad AT, but it still sucks real bad.

But i also don't want to deal with it again. I'm not sure what the correct answer is, but i do know that the 6ULs are lighter and cost pretty much the same. And if you can physically order them, chances are you'll have them within a week, vs the LongerDongers which came about 12 weeks after i spent my money.

turbofan 05-22-2017 11:40 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 1357730)
Ours are in stock, cheaper, lighter, better looking (lip!) and not a copy of someone else's design.

ooo look, aren't they pretty?

And so light!

Shiny!

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ca1f6401ba.jpg


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1357747)
no offense, and your rims are clearly superior, but the jonglongdongs look better.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...4d3d5bcf37.jpg

thejeans 05-24-2017 03:18 PM

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4165/3...1a3e51f7_z.jpg

yeah i like the 949 better for racing but the jongalongdongs look better to me. but then again maybe im biased haha

tyhackman15 05-24-2017 03:24 PM

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Another +1 for street wheels. Storms or 6uls for the track

turbofan 05-24-2017 03:25 PM

Good hell that looks sooooo good. I don't even like red but I'd drive that ,no question.

Savington 05-24-2017 03:27 PM

Even blind people think 13.5lb wheels look better than 15.2lb wheels.

concealer404 05-24-2017 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1417041)
Even blind people think 13.5lb wheels look better than 15.2lb wheels.

I'd agree. My ass isn't calibrated enough to notice the 1.7lb/corner difference though, and literally every time i've tried to buy the 13.5lb eye-wateringly-gorgeous wheels, they haven't been available. Not that this go around with the butterface 15.2lb wheels (built for childbearing!) was much better, so that's that.

Guess i go with some US made 3 pieces from here.


Anyways, here's some pictures.

https://flic.kr/p/Typ8eh

https://flic.kr/p/UQPwnF

https://flic.kr/p/UQPvQZ

https://flic.kr/p/UPYTfF

https://flic.kr/p/UeYgub

flier129 05-24-2017 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1417041)
Even blind people think 13.5lb wheels look better than 15.2lb wheels.

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albumleaf 05-24-2017 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1417041)
Even blind people think 13.5lb wheels look better than 15.2lb wheels.

Tell me more about miata.net

Savington 05-24-2017 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1417043)
Anyways, here's some pictures.

Pics showed up all black for a sec, I lol'd.

concealer404 05-24-2017 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1417063)
Pics showed up all black for a sec, I lol'd.

This forum's formatting is infuriating. Posting anything like i do on every other forum at any point in history results in duplicates of every image. You probably caught me mid-edit. :giggle:

ridethecliche 05-25-2017 08:09 PM

Don't the Advanti S2's look similar too?

Savington 05-25-2017 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by ridethecliche (Post 1417356)
Don't the Advanti S2's look similar too?

Sort of/not really. They're made in the same factory, though, along with the Konig Dial-In. (Not a euphemism, I own a single sample of both for brake fitment and the UPC/QC decals are identical on both wheels)

ridethecliche 05-25-2017 08:32 PM

There's an advanti S2 made specifically to fit the prius C two according to tire rack. That makes my brain hurt.

Can't paste a picture right now for some reason... but the S2 is basically a 2 prong and 1 prong alternating design. Weird.

tyhackman15 05-26-2017 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ridethecliche (Post 1417359)
There's an advanti S2 made specifically to fit the prius C two according to tire rack. That makes my brain hurt.

Can't paste a picture right now for some reason... but the S2 is basically a 2 prong and 1 prong alternating design. Weird.

Yeah they're weird and quite ugly IMO. Crazy how the S1 is one of the best looking wheels, while the S2 is so awful.

Slider 05-26-2017 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by tyhackman15 (Post 1417472)
Yeah they're weird and quite ugly IMO. Crazy how the S1 is one of the best looking wheels, while the S2 is so awful.

Not sure what is going on with the design there, blah.I dig the Konig Hypergram, only 15x8.5 though

ShaZam508 01-13-2018 10:10 AM

Is there any particular reason why the Jongbloed's aren't offered by Flyin' Miata anymore? Did they commonly crack or something?

Keith@FM 01-13-2018 11:44 AM

Just read through the first 9 pages of this and pay attention to the timeframe, pricing, distribution and the changing spec, you might get an idea. It was not a process we wanted to repeat. From a business standpoint, it wasn't a great experience.

We are a Tire Rack dealer so we have access to everything they sell at the same price. We've also become the largest 6UL dealer in the world with a massive inventory. But no more Jongbloeds.

hornetball 01-13-2018 12:41 PM

Just noticed the Storm S1 vs. S2 discussion above. If you are considering a Storm wheel for track use, consider my experience with them (spoiler -- I switched to the S2):

https://www.miataturbo.net/wheels-ti...parison-95534/

Bryan 03-06-2018 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by Keith@FM (Post 1223482)
If they do come back with the lighter weight, expect the price to go up.

We have discovered that the 15x8 don't clear factory Sport braces without a low profile banjo bolt - same as with the TRM wheels. Easy fix, just use a low profile banjo like the one we sell. I suspect that most stainless brake lines come with the lower profile bolt as well, I know ours do.

Sorry to dredge this up, but do the current offerings still have this issue? Are you talking about the underbody braces, Keith?

concealer404 03-06-2018 02:25 PM

He meant brakes, not braces. And the wheels have not changed since release.

Bryan 03-06-2018 02:26 PM

That is an embarrassingly simple miss on my part.

Carry on, then!

Bronson M 04-22-2018 09:37 AM

Picked up a set of the 10's, surprisingly I haven't found many photos of NB's with stock fenders (Rolled not flared). Even more surprising is these don't rub, I'm still going to pull the springs and check out clearance but it seems that the rear wheels tuck in just enough to clear the flat lip, fronts are fine.

These are 245 RS4's that are about half worn, swapping them off a set of 9" 6UL's. I'm only running 2.75* in the front and 2.25* in the rear, I'm running 1000/500 springs now so I'm going to see if I can get away with less camber than I was running before (3.25/2.75) to try and improve braking performance. Worth mentioning I also built adjustable front and rear upper control arms so I've got the eccentrics pushed all the way out and camber dialed in with the upper arms. I may try to put the rear eccentrics all the way in and adjust camber from there, might be able to tuck the wheel in a 1/4".

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...efdc5c15b6.jpg

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...0b8beca33a.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...d32886c2e0.jpg

10" on the left, 9" on the right
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...a455760762.jpg

sixshooter 04-22-2018 09:57 AM

Wow. That makes me wonder even more what's wrong with Ben's setup.

Bryan 04-22-2018 04:49 PM

Dang, that looks *good*.

Bronson M 04-22-2018 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1478493)
Wow. That makes me wonder even more what's wrong with Ben's setup.

Was Ben the one who thought he got the E30 fitment versions? I have a buddy who let me borrow is E30 offset (10mm) just to see how bad it was, here's a comparison from above on the front.

E30 (10mm):
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...0b0669e558.jpg

Miata fitment (25mm):
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...e7ce4a62c5.jpg

sixshooter 04-23-2018 06:34 AM

Yeah, Ben is concealer404.

Bryan 04-23-2018 07:17 AM

Nice illustration for those of us less familiar (me included). Thank you for that :)

concealer404 04-23-2018 09:24 AM

We have opposite things going on really. He's consciously adjusted his arms for wheel clearance, while i've suffered a death by a thousand cuts with any number of things adding up a millimeter here, millimeter there. Next time i'm ready for an alignment i'll shorten some stuff up a tad, but otherwise i'm just rockin' it as is. Looks dumb, feels fine.

vehicular 04-27-2018 05:01 PM

Does your friend want to sell those E30 +10s?

Bronson M 04-27-2018 05:25 PM

Naa, he's trying to make his death machine a little less deadly. Blown LS keeps him in church.

bigben 09-23-2018 08:06 PM

Hey guys, think that the +10 offset wheels could be machined to the +20/25 offset required for the miata? Is it the same casting with a thicker hub?
Thanks!

Bronson M 09-23-2018 08:50 PM

I thought the same thing, but it didn't appear that was the case. Even if it was, the lug nut seat is machined to give a set thickness so you don't need extended studs
​studs. Buy the Miata offset and use spacers to fit on an E30. Or just use the E30 offset and flares.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...dac2bb4aa3.jpg

bigben 09-24-2018 07:57 AM

Thanks, that is the answer I was looking for!

Ben


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