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Old 03-31-2016, 08:58 AM   #221
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Looks like a 225 Hoosier on a 9.
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Old 03-31-2016, 09:17 AM   #222
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Just sitting over here wishing I had this tire on 10's and enough power to actually push it around. Hawt damn.

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Holy ****, is that the Bronze 6UL, K24mr2spyder?

That color looks great.

Fwiw that looks like the older bronze color (Gen3?) unless it's just the lighting. Gen4 is brighter.
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Old 04-01-2016, 11:51 AM   #223
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The 245 VR-1 is 23.1 pounds heavier than the 225 VR-1
Ok, I bought 2ea 245's for the rear. And 15x10's. And more cut off wheels. Any hints on when I should start looking for the 225 for the front?
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Ok, I bought 2ea 245's for the rear. And 15x10's. And more cut off wheels. Any hints on when I should start looking for the 225 for the front?
225s up front will just make the car push. All or nothing.
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Old 04-01-2016, 12:00 PM   #225
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Stagger is fail.
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Ok, I bought 2ea 245's for the rear. And 15x10's. And more cut off wheels. Any hints on when I should start looking for the 225 for the front?
We've been getting a lot of requests for 225/45ZR15. It's a high priority for new sizes, so hopefully soon.
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Old 04-01-2016, 12:14 PM   #227
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Any hints on when I should start looking for the 225 for the front?
Don't. Order another two 245/40/15's.

I have spoken.
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Old 04-01-2016, 12:23 PM   #228
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Ok, I bought 2ea 245's for the rear. And 15x10's. And more cut off wheels. Any hints on when I should start looking for the 225 for the front?
When you have more than 53% rear weight bias.
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When you have more than 53% rear weight bias.
I'm sure they are for his air cooled Porsche.
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When you have more than 53% rear weight bias.
Done

I appreciate the helpful intentions from you guys, but I'm not running narrower in the front, I'm running wider in the rear. I'll run the widest, stickiest tire I can within other limitations. You can bet I'll bolt these on the front and inspect for interference, but I don't hold out much hope.
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Oooo I didn't know these were out for sale. Eeeeeeeee
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I'm not running narrower in the front, I'm running wider in the rear.
Do you even logic?
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I'm not running narrower in the front, I'm running wider in the rear.
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Do you even logic?
You guys are such arrogant ********. I knew there was a reason I fit in so well here
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Correct response. *******
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I'm on the fence about running the 245s on the 15x8 wheels I have right now, I know 15x9 are ideal for sidewall stiffness but would I lose grip over a 225?
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So wait. Given I can't run 245's on 10's in the front (may or may not be true, waiting to test fit), you guys think I should run narrower in the rear to have a square setup so it won't push?

Most forums proffer the silly myth of needing stagger so it doesn't kill you in a fire.

A car can be setup to work around a lot, and more grip is usually more grip. If you can add grip at one end and then change stiffness bias to shift some of that grip to the other end, it is usually a win.

Sure, it would be better to add grip at both ends if possible. The track width change that comes with it muddies the waters on judging how much grip was added, but if 245s in the rear shifts my balance so much that I need to compensate with a spring change, I'll be ecstatic.
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So wait. Given I can't run 245's on 10's in the front (may or may not be true, waiting to test fit), you guys think I should run narrower in the rear to have a square setup so it won't push?

Most forums proffer the silly myth of needing stagger so it doesn't kill you in a fire.

A car can be setup to work around a lot, and more grip is usually more grip. If you can add grip at one end and then change stiffness bias to shift some of that grip to the other end, it is usually a win.

Sure, it would be better to add grip at both ends if possible. The track width change that comes with it muddies the waters on judging how much grip was added, but if 245s in the rear shifts my balance so much that I need to compensate with a spring change, I'll be ecstatic.
Yes square is better. I dont know of a single miata forum (even the really bad ones) that recommend a staggered setup.

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I'm on the fence about running the 245s on the 15x8 wheels I have right now, I know 15x10 are ideal for sidewall stiffness but would I lose grip over a 225?
FTFY
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15x10 are tasty, I'll probably run 15x9 eventually since I like going full lock and U-turning on these terribad StPaul roads. :(
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I'd be curious how a staggered setup would run. The Miata was designed to be a 50/50ish car, so the geometry is also complimented for that. However, tire cornering stiffness should be matched to the weight distribution, and for a given tire model, cornering stiffness is fairly linear in respect to width.

I think it'd be interesting to setup a Miata with 245 rear 225 front, match the weight distribution to the widths, then tune in the ride heights, camber, and toe and see how it compares to a well set up square car.
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