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Old 05-21-2015, 09:57 AM   #2061
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800 and 14.7 at idle and pretty much 14.7-15.5 everywhere under 80kpa. 15.5-16 at hwy cruise
And then it takes a huge dip, because I'm a huge whimp too and like to run my cars on the rich side in boost, ~11.9

..also because it produces really smooth, really effortless, really delicious torque
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I can't get my car to idle lower than 1,000 rpm. I also have problems where the car idles higher after coming to a stop after driving it for some time. It takes a bit for it to settle back to 1k. I'd like to see what i'm doing that you are not (and vice versus).
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Old 05-21-2015, 01:34 PM   #2063
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CL idle control settings. and trust me when I say, mine won't be useful to you since I've tried "borrowing" others and it never worked, but I'll post up if you still want em

did you do the idle valve test to know the range?
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I can't get my car to idle lower than 1,000 rpm. I also have problems where the car idles higher after coming to a stop after driving it for some time. It takes a bit for it to settle back to 1k. I'd like to see what i'm doing that you are not (and vice versus).
You're likely talking dashpot action. Mine is not 100% consistent, especially with A/C on. My thoughts is that it's better to occasionally have a slow return, than to occasionally miss catching CL.

You might want to look into your close idle valve settings, which I presently have turned off.

Another thing would be if you use "use last" or actually preset temp vs initial AIC duty cycle. I use presets.

If your high temp preset is too large, then the return could be slow.

If you care to look, my msq is in my build thread.
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Old 05-21-2015, 02:15 PM   #2065
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Re: Vlad - Thanks. No, I am not expecting to just plug and play with your stuff. I just want to see what things you have enabled etc (duty table vs. Last known good etc).

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You're likely talking dashpot action. Mine is not 100% consistent, especially with A/C on. My thoughts is that it's better to occasionally have a slow return, than to occasionally miss catching CL.

You might want to look into your close idle valve settings, which I presently have turned off.

Another thing would be if you use "use last" or actually preset temp vs initial AIC duty cycle. I use presets.

If your high temp preset is too large, then the return could be slow.

If you care to look, my msq is in my build thread.
It does me no good to ask these questions when car is apart :( I will take what you say into consideration when I get it back on the road after smogggggggg.

Yes, idle valve min/max was set, but that was a couple tunes ago and maybe I was doing something else (like had my EGR hooked up) that might mess up my numbers. I'll re-do it when the car is back on the road and turbomiata again.
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Old 05-21-2015, 02:22 PM   #2066
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I have it on "last known". I want to mess with (and think it might work better) with a pre-set duty table but it's been so good that I'm just lazy and don't even care to touch it right now LOL

You can play with, but you can't plug......my stuff....
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I have it on "last known". I want to mess with (and think it might work better)
IME using the table is inferior to last known value. When external temps vary is when you experience issues.
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Perhaps you're right, I don't know. The temp swing here is pretty significant between daytime/morning/evening, sometimes around 20F
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Old 05-23-2015, 08:48 PM   #2069
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Just got back from the dyno, did pretty much exactly as expected.


It's a LOW reading MUSTANG dyno that was set up in AWD mode (because it was a subaru dyno day, and the guy didn't feel like disconnecting the couplings for my rwd car or re-calibrating the dyno) but the numbers are 211/209.

This matches up pretty decent with VD, which showed 226 in Dynojet mode.
Plot as soon as he sends it to me.

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Old 05-23-2015, 09:47 PM   #2070
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IME using the table is inferior to last known value. When external temps vary is when you experience issues.
How does Last Known Value handle idling with A/C compressor off, then at next off throttle / clutch in, the A/C compressor is on? Does it move the valve to the actual Last Known, or does it move to that PLUS the A/C set adder?
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I think ac adder is independent, so yes it would get added in.
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Holy ****! AWD miata?!
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Nice plot & numbers.
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Man thats a very smooth curve, very nice.
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Old 05-25-2015, 02:19 PM   #2075
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Thanks guys
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Not bad for Russian Mafia MSM!
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Car is too quiet, needs more drama

Actually that's awesome. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the tq starts to fall off after 5k becausetinyIHI but it still looks like a ridiculously fun DD. No need to rev the **** out of it and sound like a hooligan to have a good time. Kudos sir!

On a semi related note, did you end up using the small pulsewidth from this thread for your ID725's?
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Old 05-25-2015, 03:38 PM   #2078
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Hehe Thanks. I LOVE that it's subtle. It makes all the right noises: the intake gives me just enough "spool" sound that I can just drive and enjoy it without having to floor it all the time. The Turbosmart bpv I like so much that I actually ordered one for my subaru as well to replace the forge that's on there. The FM exhaust is deep and really enjoyable.

I remember that thread now. Somehow couldn't find it when I did my search when installing the ID's. I did see a couple similar ones, and also Chiburbian was nice enough to email me the spreadsheet from ID, which I also posted in this thread
Post 1956 and used to dial in the ID's
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Awesome, good to know those are the settings you actually used and that's where they came from. I just emailed ID for some info on a different injector set, hopefully I can add another spreadsheet to that thread. For science.
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That dyno sounds like it is going to come apart at any second! Is it because of the AWD and being a RWD?
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