Originally Posted by Gearhead_318
Thank you, that really clears it up for me. When stated like you did, it sounds like the closest things to a NWO that the world has ever seen where the Roman Empire, the British Empire, and to a lessor extent, the USSR with it's satellite nations. Is this the right line of thinking?
Not exactly. Those are old-fashioned empires. Visions of empires are as old as the first megalomanic caveman who took a club to the head of another to subjugate him.
The "NWO" is more specific to the One World types who grew out of the Progressive Movement in the 1890s. They believe in a One World "social democracy" type of gov't. Think of the welfare gov't's of Europe.
No doubt many of them sincerely believe a One World Gov't in the mold of welfarist Europe, is a good thing. They are the intrusive nanny state types - for example, see Hillary Clinton's book "It Takes a Village". She wants gov't workers to keep tabs on all families to ensure all children are raised with "the right values".
Some of them merely see it as a path to more power, such as the Soros types, I believe.
They all come from an elitist
mindset: that is, that they are superior to everyone else (how can they not be, look at all their money), and so they have the right and the duty to control the masses.
There seem to exist several flavors of NWO types.
Among them are:
- the Fabianists - the Brave New World types - Aldous Huxley wrote his book based on what he learned from the vision of the world of the Fabian Society.
Check out the Wikipedia entry on Brave New World:
, and check out the book "Fabian Freeway" -
They believe that socialism, morphed into welfarism, is the way to create a structured, tiered society for them to control. The more extreme types believed that future genetic technology that only they could afford would turn them into supermen, genetically separating them from the masses. These guys came out of the "Progressive" movements which was about gov't control over the economy in order that their corporations could kill off their competition via favorable regulations.
- the more militant "fascist" types - these were the guys who tried to launch a coup'd'etat against FDR but failed, thwarted by General Smedley Butler. This huge event in history was thrown into the memory hole:
- the EcoNazi types. Draconian environmental laws are not about the environment, they are about controlling people. A millionaire socialist by the name of Heilbroner, had written in the early 80s, that "socialism will never out-produce a capitalist system, get over it. The way to exert control in the future, is via 'the ecology movement'".
- the ordinary One World Currency types - they don't care much about the social aspects, they just want control over a single world currency. The Federal Reserve has exerted some measure of similar control by controlling the world's reserve currency (USD). However the coming decline of the USD means some of the latter are throwing the Federal Reserve under the bus and pushing for IMF "special drawing rights" or other some such currency.
In my opinion the NWO types have shot their wad. The Euro is tenuous, the Internet is educating people to be wary of centralization of power, and getting gov't's and central banks all over the world to cede power is like herding cats. Exhibit One: the UN never got very far.
What central control types don't get is that Freedom and Free Markets produce the best results. Any centralization of power leads to greater corruption. Central economic planning results in economic inefficiency.
The 80-odd year experiment in cradle-to-grave welfare gov't is ending. Just about every Western gov't that promised huge entitlements to its citizens is on the road to insolvency. Such a system, where everyone tries to live off of everyone else, instead of rewarding productivity by enforcing property rights and letting citizens keep their earnings, is simply, unsustainable.
P.S. Bush Sr. famously uttered the exact phrase "The New World Order". I guess it started out as a buzzphrase among their types...
P.P.S. I sympathize with Superman, in that the USA has completely lost its way, straying far, far from the philosophy of the Founders. OTOH, that other countries are much better in that regard, is sort of a false dichotomy. That the Democrat types are "haterz", and the Republican types are "patriotic", is a big joke. Divide and conquer. Get the masses to argue falsehoods to distract them while they're led down the path towards more enslavement.