MS3X no start with "Miata 99-05" mode

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11-22-2013, 01:05 AM

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MS3X no start with "Miata 99-05" mode

New MS3X on 94 motor with VVT head.
run ok with 4g63 mode with stock CAS.
switch to Miata 99-05, no luck.
CKS and CMS works.
No idea how the trigger setting work. please point me to the right direction.

attached log file from composite logger and tune.

Please help.

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11-22-2013, 01:54 AM

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Are you using all NB sensors?

11-22-2013, 01:55 AM

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Are you using all NB sensors?

cam sensor came with the head so i suppose it's stock nb sensor. crank sensor from DIYautotune.
trigger wheel was from a 323. which look the same as the NB one.

11-22-2013, 07:15 AM

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it appears to be syncing in that log you sent, cant you post a screenshot of the composite log? i cant view it in software here. you probably just need to fine tune your crossoverpoint pots.

11-22-2013, 08:33 AM

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it appears to be syncing in that log you sent, cant you post a screenshot of the composite log? i cant view it in software here. you probably just need to fine tune your crossoverpoint pots.

thanks.

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11-22-2013, 09:16 AM

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looks like you're syncing.

11-22-2013, 09:24 AM

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looks like you're syncing.

so the sensor and the trigger is installed correctly?
what i should play with then?

11-25-2013, 01:44 AM

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is the green line suppose to be CAM?

11-25-2013, 07:36 AM

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oh yeah. looks like you have your sensors reversed.

11-25-2013, 08:34 AM

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Per your log, you have your crank sensor wired to your cam input and your cam sensor wired to your crank input.

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11-26-2013, 12:04 AM

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Per your log, you have your crank sensor wired to your cam input and your cam sensor wired to your crank input.

yes. i finally notice this problem and I just killed my starter........

11-26-2013, 12:00 PM

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new starter installed. wire swapped. Started to combust but still no start.
I can start the engine in 4g63 mode, so i suppose the fuel figure should work in miata 99-05 mode. <-- is this correct?
i hooked up the timing light but it didnt work at cranking speed. how can I get the base timing right?
What else can I go wrong?

For the "Ignition Input Capture" should I use Rising edge or Falling edge?

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11-26-2013, 10:15 PM

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here is another 2 log.
I got combustion but it didn't start.
is there anything to do with the "Trigger angle/offset" ? I set it to 0
also I haven't connect the vvt control. will it affect?

video clip of my cranking

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2013-11-27_09.51.42.csv (10.4 KB, 77 views)

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11-30-2013, 10:07 AM

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I can't view your trigger logs on my desktop at home, but you're still not syncing.

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11-30-2013, 12:01 PM

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I can't view your trigger logs on my desktop at home, but you're still not syncing.

Its still not working. I have no idea what to do. Is it the problem of the hardware adjustment or its the software tune problem?

12-02-2013, 06:54 AM

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I custom made the sensor mount. Do I need a calibration ?

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12-02-2013, 09:13 AM

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Your cam and crank inputs are still wired backwards. It's not going to start until you fix that.

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12-02-2013, 09:17 AM

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Your cam and crank inputs are still wired backwards. It's not going to start until you fix that.

arrr.. OMG.. i made this mistake again.... Sorry, i will fix it and mark the cable tomorrow.

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