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Old 09-30-2018, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by codrus
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Slicks absorb torque and are more forgiving to the drivetrain.
I've read that hence why i went with them - when i was on street tires the wheel hop was terrible.. my best first pass had quite a bit of wheel hop, after that i didnt risk it anymore.

Looking for an adjustable FPR at this time now aswell since it seems i am running out of fuel very soon, won't be able to pass the 350 range without it.
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You’re probably running outa pump not fpr
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You’re probably running outa pump not fpr
AEM 320lp, I have an NA - stock fuel pressure reg is 43psi, just learned that NB's are at 60 normally.. That's a crazy big improvement. Also flae has run at 80psi with id 1050s NP apparently, That should give me the headroom i need i'm thinking
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I’ve hit 400-430 many times on aem+1050s at 43psi base before , so you should be good
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I’ve hit 400-430 many times on aem+1050s at 43psi base before , so you should be good
When i tested my slicks out, i took a log of the pulls to adjust my tune a bit (log attached btw)

I was seeing 90% duty cycle at 19psi tapering down to 16psi ( Pretty sure i got boost control figured out now after this log, needs more pid )

The other day i was running at 22psi tapering down a bit and saw 84%

Pretty sure I need some extra headroom because from what I've been seeing/reading I'm right at the limits of my injectors otherwise
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lol ok. do as you wish
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Originally Posted by Colipto
AEM 320lp, I have an NA - stock fuel pressure reg is 43psi, just learned that NB's are at 60 normally.. That's a crazy big improvement. Also flae has run at 80psi with id 1050s NP apparently, That should give me the headroom i need i'm thinking
NBs are at 60, but they are non-manifold referenced and the regulator is in the tank instead of being up at the fuel rail. You lose a few psi in the lines going up to the front, so if you're running 20-ish psi of boost you may only have an effective 35 psi across the injectors.

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lol ok. do as you wish
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I'm going to try running higher boost pressures - but how does that explain my high duty cycle logs?

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NBs are at 60, but they are non-manifold referenced and the regulator is in the tank instead of being up at the fuel rail. You lose a few psi in the lines going up to the front, so if you're running 20-ish psi of boost you may only have an effective 35 psi across the injectors.

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I'm trying to get up to 25psi boost - have only been able to get to 22-20 or lower 19-16 on colder days, still working out boost control settings and fueling

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As Vlad says, you're probably out of fuel pump flow.

Go find some cells where you're currently running say 80% DC, manually turn it up to 90%, then log it and see if the AFR changes. If it doesn't, then you need more pump flow.

Maybe your AEM is weak, or maybe the filter is clogged, or maybe there's a restriction somewhere else in the fuel line. Or maybe it can't get enough electrons and needs rewiring.

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Awesome studs I love them so much, I guess putting a **** ton of resbond didn't matter.. 2/4 gone as soon as I arrived at the track.. , not looking forward to a third set at all I'm sitting here thinking about it's just and exhaust leak. Nope.. it's litterally about to fall off..



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Good lord dude
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You might have an exhaust leak
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You've got an exhaust leak where the #1 exhaust port in the head meets the manifold as well. Also, WTF happened to those exhaust manifold studs? Weren't they new last year? Why are they solid chunks of rust now?

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Those studs are too expensive to just drop on the ground. You're missing like 75 bucks worth.
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Maybe he stores it under water
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New England.
Nothing lasts unless it's garaged all winter, and a little bit of what we would consider spring and fall too.
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You thought SF was bad with the fog(marine layer.)
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I think he sprays his engine bay down with brine!
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Originally Posted by codrus
You've got an exhaust leak where the #1 exhaust port in the head meets the manifold as well. Also, WTF happened to those exhaust manifold studs? Weren't they new last year? Why are they solid chunks of rust now?

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Yep, they were "New" haha, i haven't even driven the car that much - it spends most of its time in a tent.

I think you're wrong about the leak on #1 - Not sure why that area of the head is darker than the others - I'm actually leaking at my valve cover rear end on both sides after taking a closer look, I took a few pics so maybe you can get a better look / idea - ALSO IGNORE THAT BLACK THING ON THE STUD UNDER #1, Some piece of plastic decided it was going to chill there and i havn't found a need to clean it up (its not rusting tho)

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Originally Posted by sixshooter
Those studs are too expensive to just drop on the ground. You're missing like 75 bucks worth.
Twice now I've bought them.. NO MORE! **** THAT. My problem is with STUDS backing out, not nuts. I am now looking at a stage 8 locking kit which is WAYY cheaper around 40 bucks. I measured the iconel studs i have left - they measure 29mm long. Looking at replacing them with these.

Stage 8 3902 Turbo Locking Bolt Kit with 8mm-1.25 x 25mm 6 Point Bolts

The only problem with the kit above is that the bolts may be a little too short, might have to find a kit a little bigger around 30-35mm and cut the bolt to size or something.

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Maybe he stores it under water
Its pretty much like storing it underwater... SALT water.

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New England.
Nothing lasts unless it's garaged all winter, and a little bit of what we would consider spring and fall too.
Working on fixing my garage still sadly :(

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You might have an exhaust leak
You're right - I did have an exhaust leak at my down-pipe, what a crazy difference that made in under-hood temps, and probably my AFRs, replaced the studs with generic autozone 10.9 hardware - Part#23735, anti-seized with love, hoping it will hold since i don't have anymore res-bond.





to Square top or not to square top.. that is the question now. Hoping to attempt to track again tomorrow!
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