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Old Aug 17, 2017 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by concealer404
How many people find a total width of a little over 11" very strange for a 10" wheel?
That's normal, about a .500 bead.
Old Aug 17, 2017 | 09:54 AM
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Ok well... i'm back to being completely flabbergasted.
Old Aug 17, 2017 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by concealer404

How many people find a total width of a little over 11" very strange for a 10" wheel?
You motivated me to finally open one of the boxes. I get 10 15/16" edge to edge and right around 10" bead to bead using a standard tape measure.
Old Aug 17, 2017 | 09:57 AM
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So these awesome wheels poke out the same amount on your daily driver too?
Old Aug 17, 2017 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboTim
So these awesome wheels poke out the same amount on your daily driver too?
I'm not sure yet. My jack broke so i'm running after work to get a new one. I'll hovercar both cars and see what i come up with.

Honestly, the adjustable arms and ELBJs aren't really super relevant. The first "fit" of this setup on this car in this thread as on all stock and original arms and balljoints. It was still obscene.
Old Aug 17, 2017 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by concealer404

Been running around like crazy and my jack died so ...
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My jack is dead, ...
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... I need to procure a new jack ...
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I'm not sure yet. My jack broke so ...
I can't stand it! For the love of god, would someone get this poor man a jack already!!
Old Aug 17, 2017 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by good2go
I can't stand it! For the love of god, would someone get this poor man a jack already!!
Normally wouldn't be a problem, but my wife is driving my truck while i prep hers for sale. I'll get a jack today.

And then i'll make a post about that too. So you can all breathe again.
Old Aug 17, 2017 | 12:22 PM
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But wait, when exactly can we expect you to procure said jack?
Old Aug 17, 2017 | 12:26 PM
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I'm off work at 6pm EST today, HF is about 8 miles away, so it'll take me anywhere from 10 to 80 minutes to get there. I hope to be back home with said jack by 10pm EST.
Old Aug 17, 2017 | 02:14 PM
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I think they close at 8, so you better leave immediately
Old Aug 17, 2017 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by concealer404
I have some numbers. Pls halp.

@Savington
Total height: 280.5mm
Backspace: 164mm
Offset is calculated to the center of bead to bead distance, not outer edge of wheel. So remove the rear lip flange width from the backspace before you calculate offset.
A nominal 10" wheel should be 254mm
Your wheel is 280.5 outer dimension
Lip flanges are roughly 13.25mm

Backspace(164mm) - half the wheel(140.25) is 23.75. This is the correct math of an un-named industry metric. lol

Subtract the 13.25mm lip flange that exists in reality but is not accounted for on paper = 10.5mm offset.

Edit: Nope. This is wrong. Fake News. You can disregard the rim flange thickness. Don't believe the internet

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Old Aug 17, 2017 | 06:08 PM
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Ah HAH. Thank you.
Old Aug 17, 2017 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by doward
Subtract the 13.25mm lip flange that exists in reality but is not accounted for on paper = 10.5mm offset.
You would subtract this 13.25 from both measurements, no?

280mm OAH = 140mm to center of wheel

164mm measured from outer edge to hub pad - 140mm to center of wheel = +24mm offset

or

254mm known wheel width, half is 127mm

164mm measured outer edge to hub pad, subtract ~13mm for lip flange = 151mm from tire bead to hub flange
151mm to hub flange - 127mm to center of wheel = +24mm offset
Old Aug 17, 2017 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by doward
Offset is calculated to the center of bead to bead distance, not outer edge of wheel. So remove the rear lip flange width from the backspace before you calculate offset.
A nominal 10" wheel should be 254mm
Your wheel is 280.5 outer dimension
Lip flanges are roughly 13.25mm

Backspace(164mm) - half the wheel(140.25) is 23.75. This is the correct math of an un-named industry metric. lol

Subtract the 13.25mm lip flange that exists in reality but is not accounted for on paper = 10.5mm offset.

I still think you have 15x10 +10, nominal, wheels.

This is why there are arguments over which measurement method is better. There is no industry standard, min or max, on the thickness of a wheel's rim. Truck wheels often have a standard inner rim profile/thickness and a 20mm fake beadlock on the outside.
I like offset/ET better, but both give you the same information if you understand how the measurements work.
Old Aug 17, 2017 | 07:27 PM
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If people that work in the industry don't agree on how to measure wheels, then how am i supposed to determine what to order, or how to determine if what i have is what i ordered?
Old Aug 17, 2017 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by concealer404
If people that work in the industry don't agree on how to measure wheels, then how am i supposed to determine what to order, or how to determine if what i have is what i ordered?
Oh you wanted what you ordered? That will be extra
Old Aug 17, 2017 | 07:28 PM
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Anyways, i have a jack now.

What should i be looking at to figure out whose side i'm on?
Old Aug 17, 2017 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by aidandj
Oh you wanted what you ordered? That will be extra
Is what i ordered even what i wanted? I don't even know that at this point, because apparently going with the most supported platform in the world just means more uncertainty.
Old Aug 17, 2017 | 07:31 PM
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I bet this wouldn't have been a problem with 6UL's
Old Aug 17, 2017 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 18psi
I bet this wouldn't have been a problem with 6UL's
Yeah, because he wouldn't have had any wheels yet.

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