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Old 08-16-2017, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Savington
Wheel width is bead to bead. Add another 10mm per side to get the full height dimension (so a 10" 254mm wheel measures 274mm tall when sitting on the ground). (10mm for at least the 6UL and Jongbloed Aero500, I measured both.) A 9" 6UL measures ~160mm from hub face to inner edge, less 10mm, less ~114mm (4.5"), gets you 36mm. 10" 6UL measures ~162mm from hub face to inner edge, less 10mm, less 127mm (5"), gets you 25mm.

I think you have +10s.
I have some numbers. Pls halp.

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Measurements taken with wheel sitting "face" down. Due to stancey stretch, measuring from floor is accurate as wheel is contacting floor.

Total height: 280.5mm
Backspace: 164mm
Mounting pads (entire relief, didn't have a great way to just get the lug holes): 15.5mm

What is going on?
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Old 08-16-2017, 08:38 PM
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Based on those numbers, I get 23.75mm of offset.
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Same here. I'm at a total loss, and i'm reasonably sure nobody put a custom 4-6" wider subframe front and rear in the car prior to my ownership.
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Compared track (at lower "edge" of wheel) on the two cars in my garage.

Hater Front: 69.5"
DD Front: 63"
Hater Rear: 69.75"
DD Rear: 63"
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Old 08-16-2017, 08:58 PM
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What wheel does the DD have?
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Stock NB1. It's a 99. Haven't measured camber, but it's got a good bit. It's slammered on Xidas.
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how i feel trying to solve this issue
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I'm betting you got some 10" +10 wheels. A "narrow" Maxxis 245 on an 11" would be like, exposing the bead stretched.

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Measurements are above. Does not appear to be +10s. The plot sickens.
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Do you have ELBJs, maxed-out camber bolts, adjustable upper arms, and a pinchweld height of ~4" or lower?
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Originally Posted by concealer404
Measurements are above. Does not appear to be +10s. The plot sickens.
Fail. I missed that.

I don't have an unmounted 10 laying around right now, let me go pull one off Bullet...
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Originally Posted by Savington
Do you have ELBJs, maxed-out camber bolts, adjustable upper arms, and a pinchweld height of ~4" or lower?
IIRC, he has all of those with exception of the pinch weld is at 4.25"
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Originally Posted by Savington
Do you have ELBJs, maxed-out camber bolts, adjustable upper arms, and a pinchweld height of ~4" or lower?
1) Yes (but obviously no bearing on the rear)
2) Very no
3) Yes (but not all weird and jacked up because of lack of camber bolt necessary to hit -3)
4) 4.25"
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Ahhhh, I should have been paying attention with you guys were aligning it.
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Obviously, you have the extremely limited edition wide-track miata that Mazda produced in secret.
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Originally Posted by concealer404
Mounting pads (entire relief, didn't have a great way to just get the lug holes): 15.5mm
What is this measurement?
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Originally Posted by TurboTim
What is this measurement?
Depth of the cutouts in the mounting pad of the wheel. Where it sits on the hub.

How many people find a total width of a little over 11" very strange for a 10" wheel?
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Wait a minute...

Originally Posted by concealer404

Measurements taken with wheel sitting "face" down. Due to stancey stretch, measuring from floor is accurate as wheel is contacting floor.

Total height: 280.5mm
Backspace: 164mm
So you have the outside of the wheel on the ground, and you're using a tape measure to measure the height of the wheel and the height of the mounting pad, with the end of the tape measure on the ground for both measurements? In that case, these are -23.75's, not +23.75's.
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Originally Posted by TurboTim
Wait a minute...

So you have the outside of the wheel on the ground, and you're using a tape measure to measure the height of the wheel and the height of the mounting pad? In that case, these are -23.75's, not +23.75's.
That 164mm is mounting pad to inner edge of wheel.
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