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hustler 08-29-2012 11:21 AM

How much power am I giving up by going with an RB exhaust over something fancy? ARTech can do something for me soon, but I just don't have the time.

curly 08-29-2012 12:44 PM

Why won't the turbo exhaust work for now? Is it just too loud? I wonder if you could have Abe weld up a cat. But instead of a cat it's a small resonator to cut down the noise without the power sacrifice of a real converter. Also, you could reuse your turbo exhaust on your DD turbo'd car once you get something more permanent for the track car.

Just a thought. Although, you might not have time for that either.

Midtenn 08-29-2012 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 920895)
How much power am I giving up by going with an RB exhaust over something fancy? ARTech can do something for me soon, but I just don't have the time.

I've got a 2.25" Enthuza I'll trade you for 3" stuff.

emilio700 08-29-2012 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 920895)
How much power am I giving up by going with an RB exhaust over something fancy? ARTech can do something for me soon, but I just don't have the time.

None. The RB makes power it's just heavy. The Enthuza trade from Midtenn isn't a bad idea.

FWIW, we just installed one of the new Borla race exhausts with optional rear muffler. Very quiet and nice tone. It's reasonably light but a bit too expensive for most. They have a kit for every year 90-05. We'll add it to the website. but I'm grinding on Borla to maybe lower the SRP a bit to bring it more inline with the other exhausts on the market.

flier129 08-29-2012 01:24 PM

A turbo muffler without turbo or cat..... 97.9dB. It isn't too pleasant and there's a loss of low-end tq lol.

No time to have a muffler shop do a quick fab of 2.25" piping to a resonator in place of the muffler? Should stay under 94dB with a high flow cat or another res. Should only weigh around 13lbs as well.

elesjuan 08-29-2012 01:41 PM

Sub'd for awesome small penor N/A build!



Originally Posted by owenwilliams (Post 920685)
Regarding water in the intake, I've heard extremely mixed views.
A number of s2ki.com forum members seem to have 'heard of a guy' who hydrolocked their engine. One member is sure that his CAI-equipped engine bogged and then blew after he splashed through a big puddle on the street. However, I've never encountered such horror stories anywhere else on the web, which makes me wonder if this hydrolock phenomenon is just an idiosyncrasy of this particular forum.
Another example: my friend once told me he was penalised during an intake design module of his motorsports engineering course for positioning the trial vehicle's air filter in an exposed position. So, edumacated people do not recommend it.

Not only do I personally know a guy who hydrolocked TWO engines in the same car, I was with him both times. Was a VERY low mounted behind bumper cone filter on a VR6 Jetta.




Originally Posted by flier129 (Post 920944)
A turbo muffler without turbo or cat..... 97.9dB. It isn't too pleasant and there's a loss of low-end tq lol.

No time to have a muffler shop do a quick fab of 2.25" piping to a resonator in place of the muffler? Should stay under 94dB with a high flow cat or another res. Should only weigh around 13lbs as well.

Or does the turbo catback have accommodation for a cat? Replace the "test pipe" with a resonated pipe?

rharris19 08-29-2012 02:04 PM

I had an Springfield Dyno exhaust on that motor and the people at HHR said it was too loud at 117dB, but I call BS because the person doing it stood only 20 ft behind it. They told me to floor it in neutral and with the light weight of the motor it quickly shot all the way up and got very loud very quickly. It scared the person with the meter enough that they ducked away.

hustler 08-29-2012 04:10 PM

Well I have the intake but TDR did not have the RB rear section. Should I just order one|?

emilio700 08-29-2012 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by rharris19 (Post 920956)
I had an Springfield Dyno exhaust on that motor and the people at HHR said it was too loud at 117dB, but I call BS because the person doing it stood only 20 ft behind it. They told me to floor it in neutral and with the light weight of the motor it quickly shot all the way up and got very loud very quickly. It scared the person with the meter enough that they ducked away.

Yup. The SD.exhaust is insanely loud. We measure 110db @ 50'

glade 08-29-2012 06:57 PM

Fwiw, I ran an rb header, no cat(straight pipe, mandrel bent), with a single 14" spiral flow resonator in place of my muffler for many years. Measured 92-93 db at every event. Sounded fantastic, not too loud in the cab, and cost me about 25$ from the local exhaust shop. I liked it so much that I keep three in my garage at all times, lol.

emilio700 08-29-2012 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by glade (Post 921063)
Fwiw, I ran an rb header, no cat(straight pipe, mandrel bent), with a single 14" spiral flow resonator in place of my muffler for many years. Measured 92-93 db at every event. Sounded fantastic, not too loud in the cab, and cost me about 25$ from the local exhaust shop. I liked it so much that I keep three in my garage at all times, lol.

I find that very difficult to believe unless you were measuring from way past 50' at a funny angle and not at WOT. For the rest of us, that's a 108db exhaust unless the resonator was partially collapsed or otherwise occluded.

For reference, a bone stock 49 state NB1 is about 92db.

brainzata 08-29-2012 08:35 PM

Flowmaster hushpower muffler, great flow and sound. Mine, a 2.5" weighs 7lbs i think.

hustler 08-29-2012 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by glade (Post 921063)
Fwiw, I ran an rb header, no cat(straight pipe, mandrel bent), with a single 14" spiral flow resonator in place of my muffler for many years. Measured 92-93 db at every event. Sounded fantastic, not too loud in the cab, and cost me about 25$ from the local exhaust shop. I liked it so much that I keep three in my garage at all times, lol.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1346288403

flier129 08-29-2012 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 921089)

frsrsly

Jason at Enthuza says his XR light-weight puts NBs at 91-92 dB. So take out the cat and the mid-pipe muffler NBs have and you're well over 99dB....

miata_racer 08-29-2012 11:41 PM

trey if it's an emergency I'll loan you my 2.5" cat back...no res and a big magnaflow muffler. I'd need it back sometime in the next 6-8 weeks though :)

hustler 08-30-2012 12:00 AM

This is with the 6 speed and 3.63, the gears are way to big, but the bitch is fast.

It revs fast too:

hustler 08-30-2012 12:00 AM


Originally Posted by miata_racer (Post 921123)
trey if it's an emergency I'll loan you my 2.5" cat back...no res and a big magnaflow muffler. I'd need it back sometime in the next 6-8 weeks though :)

I appreciate it man, but I got it covered. Thanks a bunch for the offer.

hustler 08-30-2012 12:03 AM

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99mx5 08-30-2012 12:28 AM

Baller intake is baller.

hustler 08-30-2012 12:33 AM

Which plugs should I run?


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