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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by hustler
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how the hell did you get the center manifold/head nut tightened?
Sawed off open wrench. We all have one.
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 02:20 PM
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with a wrench? my cheap o harbor freight and fancy snap on wrench fits (box end). You have to get it from under the manifold.

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I'm running a manual gate...and only have 1 plug instead of 3.
No you are running an external wastegate. Do you mean you are running a manual boost controller? If so, is it a bleeder type or one of those ball/spring types?

What do you mean about you only have 1 plug instead of 3? In your TiAL MVS box there is two banjo bolts and 3 plugs.
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 02:24 PM
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Ok, I'll go look at a few wrenches today and hopefully find something slimmer.

Yes, sorry, manual controller.

I guess I need to dig further to find the rest of the plugs because I didn't see them last night.
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I made a 3 page .pdf from AEM's user guide, see attachment. Page 1 is the same as the TiAL diagram. Page 3 is how you should have run the old setup with the garrett internal gate. EDIT: if you decide to do it simple as in page 3, make sure you use the LOWER ports and leave the upper port(s) open.

The MVS is just like the AEM picture, with an upper and lower chamber. The upper chamber has 2 ports, lower has 3, which ever you want to use is completely up to you.
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 02:33 PM
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thanks tim...not it makes sense when comparing to the config I'm familiar with.
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thanks tim...not it makes sense when comparing to the config I'm familiar with.
no problem. I've seen some seriously stable & intelligent (PID) boost control using the page 1/TiAL way of doing it on the Jesel Bonneville truck, using a turbosmart EBC; it's supposedly what is used on multistage boost drag cars, etc. But IMHO the bad thing is that if your solenoid takes a **** or a wire gets snipped/whatever, 0% duty cycle = max boost. Not what you want for a failsafe.
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboTim
no problem. I've seen some seriously stable & intelligent (PID) boost control using the page 1/TiAL way of doing it on the Jesel Bonneville truck, using a turbosmart EBC; it's supposedly what is used on multistage boost drag cars, etc. But IMHO the bad thing is that if your solenoid takes a **** or a wire gets snipped/whatever, 0% duty cycle = max boost. Not what you want for a failsafe.
I'm sticking with manual control because I like the way it comes on softly; I have overboost turned on in megasquirt so its safe.
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 11:08 PM
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I have crazy compressor surge like a bitch. Time to find a 5 psi spring. **** the bullshit.

It's much faster at 13psi, and .7 AFR point leaner in boost. Looks like it's flowing better once spoked, but no earlier spool.
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by hustler
I have crazy compressor surge like a bitch. Time to find a 5 psi spring. **** the bullshit.

It's much faster at 13psi, and .7 AFR point leaner in boost. Looks like it's flowing better once spoked, but no earlier spool.
You got it out in this rain? Or maybe your somewhere else...
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 11:30 PM
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Yep, I drove it home in the Cambodian monsoon. It wasn't bad though after you choose whether you want to be wet from sweat, or roll the windows down and get dirty rain ater on you.

I have to get the drivetrain ready for the dyno tomorrow after work, and find a blow off valve spring.

Oh, this blow off valve is LOUD. It sounds like a whip cracking more than ricer noises. It's already getting old and I've driven it once.
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 11:37 PM
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5psi spring? Tell me how a wg spring is going to help compressor surge.... further proof you have no idea what you are talking about.
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 11:41 PM
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5psi spring? Tell me how a wg spring is going to help compressor surge.... further proof you have no idea what you are talking about.
It's a softer spring for the blow off valve, dumbfuck handball bottom ------. Don't hate the player, hate yourself because you're going to die a hetero-virgin.
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 11:44 PM
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I'll be over here laughing while you keep buying parts for you **** that don't work. Mabye you just need a larger turbine housing..... lulz
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 11:46 PM
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I'll be over here laughing while you keep buying parts for you **** that don't work. Mabye you just need a larger turbine housing..... lulz
Great story, would read again.
Old Sep 14, 2009 | 12:12 AM
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I have an ebay BOV that im not using, it has a spring it. You can have it if you want.

It's probably irrelevant to your needs, but I thought I should offer.
Old Sep 14, 2009 | 12:31 AM
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I just put the 9psi spring in the BOV, drunk as hell, and it was pretty easy. Not as easy as landing your mother, but pretty close.
Old Sep 14, 2009 | 12:39 AM
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btw, the little o-ring in the bow kinda sucks to install because it keeps falling out. A little honey in a couple spots and it goes in flawlessly.
Old Sep 14, 2009 | 12:44 AM
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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 01:19 AM
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FYI to anyone installing this stuff...the v-band shave to be tight as ****. I'm talking, 40lb/ft on the clamps or they don't seal. Everything went pretty smooth on the install once I scored an off-set box wrench. It will be put to the efficiency test on Thursday, the mechanical efficacy test on Friday and Saturday at the Hallett, then the reliability test on Sunday when I make the 5-hour return drive home.

I told JohnWag today that spending money on this kit felt the same as sending money to the IRS...I'm so over spending money on cars. Last chance for, romance. Its my...last chance, for love.
Old Sep 14, 2009 | 01:37 AM
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why did you bend the **** out of your brake lines that go to prop valve?



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