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concealer404 03-20-2014 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 1113225)
Sorry man, I've been slacking on getting your logs up. At least now there's a place to put them.

I'm surprised that you've got yellow top injectors in there (never mind I see they're 440cc I thought they were 550). I know it was running 11.3 AFR in boost, but I wouldn't think running that rich would cause them to run out of steam as early as they did. The logs showed 80-something percent duty cycle at only 6000rpm.

If you've got a wally 255 though you should be able to get enough extra fuel pressure to deal with it once you get that FPR installed.


No worries dude. Until now. GET THAT SHIT UP!!! :bowrofl:

I think the yellows are 420cc. But, i'm sure with some more pressure that they could easily handle, they'll support anything the 2554 will throw at it, especially since it's a bit rich at the moment anyways.

I figure i gotta replace those hoses anyways, and since M-Tuned rail, should be cake to ram some AN lines everywhere.

vteckiller2000 03-20-2014 10:31 AM

I wholeheartedly approve of this thread. You will do this car many more justices than I did as its owner.

Now I just need to start my own for the MSM. Blouch MSM ALLOFIT build.

concealer404 03-20-2014 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by vteckiller2000 (Post 1113237)
I wholeheartedly approve of this thread. You will do this car many more justices than I did as its owner.

Now I just need to start my own for the MSM. Blouch MSM ALLOFIT build.

Blouch ALLOFIT vs. 2554r ALLOFIT to see who achieves the least glory?


I think i need to take the manifold and turbo off and have the mating surface machined. It's leaking there. Sadface. I'M MISSING OUT ON SPOOL

18psi 03-20-2014 10:39 AM

there is no glory in either of those weenie turbo's :laugh:

but yeah cool thread and finally you have a build thread here instead of always posting random pictures and random info in random places and like a spaz :giggle:

vteckiller2000 03-20-2014 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1113241)
Blouch ALLOFIT vs. 2554r ALLOFIT to see who achieves the least glory?


I think i need to take the manifold and turbo off and have the mating surface machined. It's leaking there. Sadface. I'M MISSING OUT ON SPOOL

For most glorys I must find a dynojet. The dyno I use is a super low calibrated Mustang which gives me no glorys.

Also, don't be dumb.

concealer404 03-20-2014 10:50 AM

I think maybe i should actually just bring the threads for the other cars over here as well. You guys are smarter than most of the other forums i post on, and i like active feedback instead of "WOW BRO DATS LIKE SO KEWL!" or "GEE YOU MUST BE RICH, I SCRAPE MONEY TO PAY FOR OIL CHANGES" or whatever the hell people post on the threads elsewhere.


Will you all be offended if i move the MX6 over here? :bowrofl:

Fireindc 03-20-2014 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1113253)
I think maybe i should actually just bring the threads for the other cars over here as well. You guys are smarter than most of the other forums i post on, and i like active feedback instead of "WOW BRO DATS LIKE SO KEWL!" or "GEE YOU MUST BE RICH, I SCRAPE MONEY TO PAY FOR OIL CHANGES" or whatever the hell people post on the threads elsewhere.


Will you all be offended if i move the MX6 over here? :bowrofl:

Personally, I'd love if you brought your builds over here. I love laughing at your ancient electronic doohickies and epic KLZE fails :bowrofl:

Seriously though, DO IT.

vteckiller2000 03-20-2014 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1113253)
I think maybe i should actually just bring the threads for the other cars over here as well. You guys are smarter than most of the other forums i post on, and i like active feedback instead of "WOW BRO DATS LIKE SO KEWL!" or "GEE YOU MUST BE RICH, I SCRAPE MONEY TO PAY FOR OIL CHANGES" or whatever the hell people post on the threads elsewhere.


Will you all be offended if i move the MX6 over here? :bowrofl:

Do it.

I am thinking about bringing the Volvo over here too. Many angries will be had if peoples see my old shitty tractor engine with ALL ebay parts putting down ~300 rwhp with 26 psi on a stock bottom end and no fuel management.

concealer404 03-20-2014 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by vteckiller2000 (Post 1113244)
For most glorys I must find a dynojet. The dyno I use is a super low calibrated Mustang which gives me no glorys.

Also, don't be dumb.


No seriously, it's got a pre-turbo exhaust leak. Figure fix that, get VICS up and running, enjoy an extra 500rpms of turbo boosting?

vteckiller2000 03-20-2014 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1113263)
No seriously, it's got a pre-turbo exhaust leak. Figure fix that, get VICS up and running, enjoy an extra 500rpms of turbo boosting?

I doubt it will be that much. I'm in for dyno sheets before/after though.

Did you really have someone else hook up their computer to the MS to log?

concealer404 03-20-2014 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by vteckiller2000 (Post 1113265)
I doubt it will be that much. I'm in for dyno sheets before/after though.

Did you really have someone else hook up their computer to the MS to log?


Yes. I haven't really had a bunch of time to get set up and familiar with the software yet.

I didn't want to be driving around, trying to force this bitch into 1st gear at every stop light, and trying to figure out where the hell everything is in the software all at the same time.

Needs a little work, i'll work on it this weekend. We got the idle to not be so crazy rich, but now it's a little lean for my comfort level cruising at fast highway speeds sometimes. I think we may have miscalculated the cells this thing hangs out in a little bit.

Erat 03-20-2014 11:28 AM

Autotune.

concealer404 03-20-2014 11:30 AM

Yeah, yeah. We weren't concerned with cruising AFRs at the time because they were perfect.

And i've read on here that you shouldn't bother attempting to autotune idle. :rofl:

hornetball 03-20-2014 12:16 PM

Fire's thread turned into a Subaru thread for nearly 6 months, so why not?

Site name should change to "Bunch of A-Holes That Think They Know Cars and Sometimes Make Lucky Guesses.net."

Fireindc 03-20-2014 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by hornetball (Post 1113283)
Fire's thread turned into a Subaru thread for nearly 6 months, so why not?

Site name should change to "Bunch of A-Holes That Think They Know Cars and Sometimes Make Lucky Guesses.net."

LOL, this only happened because I got more help from my thread here than on the 3 different subaru forums I'm a member of combined. Seriously, i shit you not.

i love you guys.

thenuge26 03-20-2014 01:32 PM

I didn't adjust anything near where you would be cruising on the highway. How lean are we talking? I'm usually in the mid 15s at 70mph and haven't had any issues.

I guess we'll know for sure once I get those logs posted up, hopefully I'll have time to do that tonight.

concealer404 03-20-2014 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by thenuge26 (Post 1113315)
I didn't adjust anything near where you would be cruising on the highway. How lean are we talking? I'm usually in the mid 15s at 70mph and haven't had any issues.

I guess we'll know for sure once I get those logs posted up, hopefully I'll have time to do that tonight.


Eh i guess mid high 15s is where it was around 65-70ish. Any higher and the turbo starts doing its thing and it richens back up a bit.

I think i'm just used to the MX6, since that's really the last car i was driving that gave me a wideband to stare at.

It's getting good gas mileage, though. 25mpg the first tank, i and i kinda beat on it a lot getting a feel for it.

Fireindc 03-20-2014 01:43 PM

mid 15's is about perfect for cruise with minimal load, your MX6 is just fail aids :giggle:

concealer404 03-20-2014 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by Fireindc (Post 1113322)
mid 15's is about perfect for cruise with minimal load, your MX6 is just fail aids :giggle:


Please2be explaining why the MX6 gets 41mpg and this car doesn't, then? :giggle:

concealer404 03-20-2014 01:59 PM

Is the 323GTX PCV still the one to buy?


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