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Old 07-07-2010, 01:25 PM   #121
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Yes I realize that Joe, but perhaps I'll convince you and you'll undelete whatever you deleted. He has information he's hiding from us guyz!!!
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Old 07-07-2010, 01:45 PM   #122
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How are you going to be making the bends in the bars?
I've got a tool that is absolutely perfect for that sort of thing. It's called a checkbook.

Seriously, I'm no fabricator. Engines, electronics, these things I am good at. Chassis and suspension fab, not so much. And a project of this magnitude really isn't the place for me to learn, it would only end in frustration and something asymmetrical. So I'm paying a guy to build the frame for me.



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It's pretty... where are you going to attach suspension so it loads the chassis properly?
To the suspension mounting points.



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I'm curious as to your choice of frame. Why this vs. the tried and proven locost design? Why round vs. square tube?
Because the Atom Bomb looks cooler than a Locost..

Well, maybe that's a tad harsh.

I'd previously had my heart set on a Westie. Even made a detour way the hell up to Palisade, Colorado (through the mountains, in a snowstorm, at night, while driving a moving truck on my way from Florida to SoCal) just to sit in one. You guys saw the pictures. And I gotta say, seeing it in person it wasn't quite as ugly as I'd feared. And surprisingly, I actually fit into it reasonably well. Except my feet. Even with just my socks on, it was tight as hell down there.

One thing you'll note, if you look very closely at the following picture, is a cardboard cutout of the bottom of my left shoe hanging on the wall between the wooden cabinet and the levels, partly obscured by the frame:



This vehicle is being designed around my feet.




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Yes I realize that Joe, but perhaps I'll convince you and you'll undelete whatever you deleted. He has information he's hiding from us guyz!!!
Undelete it yourself.

Oh, that's right, you can't undelete it. Because you ain't a

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Old 07-07-2010, 01:47 PM   #123
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Nice Joe!

Really ******* nice.

EDIT: So what all is already mounted in the back? Looks like just the trans-axle...is there really room (longitudinally) to put the boxer and the Porsche unit?
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You send it out here to Ohio, and I'll skin that bitch in some fiberglass for ya, make it look real pretty and all
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Old 07-07-2010, 02:13 PM   #125
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EDIT: So what all is already mounted in the back? Looks like just the trans-axle...is there really room (longitudinally) to put the boxer and the Porsche unit?
That vehicle actually isn't mine. I'm in line behind one other guy. His car will be running a Type-IV (VW bus) engine, which is what's installed in that frame. Here's a marginally better view:





The Sooby engine is considerably wider, but actually just a tad shorter front-to-back.
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redefines the expression: lbs per hp

with something like that I'd consider something really large and laggy for the turbo. With a td04 or vf you will be getting sideways in just about every gear around 3-5k. The torque onset throws you back in the seat in a 3280lb car, I can only imagine 1000lb
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Old 07-07-2010, 02:21 PM   #127
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wouldn't matter...
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Old 07-07-2010, 02:22 PM   #128
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Hehe. I see that Y8s snuck a peek. Yeah, I covered my tracks.
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rwith something like that I'd consider something really large and laggy for the turbo. With a td04 or vf you will be getting sideways in just about every gear around 3-5k.
It'll be interesting to see how that turns out. One interesting possibility which has only just occurred to me is that with the electronic throttle, I can shape the throttle map. I'm not sure if it'll allow me to do gear-dependent throttle mapping, which would be cool. As it is, I'm already assuming that first gear will be entirely useless, and second questionable.
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That vehicle actually isn't mine. I'm in line behind one other guy. His car will be running a Type-IV (VW bus) engine, which is what's installed in that frame. Here's a marginally better view:

The Sooby engine is considerably wider, but actually just a tad shorter front-to-back.
So someone's fabbing these from a Jig set-up or similar? $$$?
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Dangit. I've even threatened two people today with bans. They don't know I can't do that. Well now they do.

Chassis is gorgeous, what's the ETA? What all are you getting from this guy, just the frame or suspension as well? AKA, cheap with miata control arms, or nifty custom units?
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Strange, those look like cast aluminum control arms and spindles. +1 on where'd they come from?
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Now this thread is interesting. The frame looks awesome.
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Chassis is gorgeous, what's the ETA? What all are you getting from this guy, just the frame or suspension as well?
ETA is probably a couple of months out. And thus the rub- y'all made me show my whole hand, and now it's going to be quite a while before I have any more pretty pictures to show.

I'll be getting a rolling chassis. Basically the frame, with the suspension and steering components hung, the engine & tranny mounts, and a shifter.


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Strange, those look like cast aluminum control arms and spindles. +1 on where'd they come from?
They're stock parts from a Pontiac Solstice / Saturn Sky. Turns out that car has a really well thought-out suspension, uses most of the same hardware front & rear, and is highly adjustable. The only downside is the 5x110 lug pattern, which is a real oddball for which not a massive selection of wheels exist. I considered re-drilling to a different pattern, but Konig has a couple of wheels which will fit, and I think we'll just go with that.
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Another box arrived today.



Very shiny.
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whoah.
that looks interesting. so soon you will have that transmission/transaxle whatever it is bolted up to the EJ?
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I am so turned on right now. You should use a vuvuzela for the horn.
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Im very concerned with the strength of the transaxle, Ive broken a couple of them, and I was only putting 50hp through them...
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on same weight vehicle?
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so soon you will have that transmission/transaxle whatever it is bolted up to the EJ?
Sadly, no. The tranny is already at the fab shop, and I'll be shipping the engine out soon for fitment. After that, it'll be a fairly long wait until anything interesting happens.


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Im very concerned with the strength of the transaxle, Ive broken a couple of them, and I was only putting 50hp through them...
It is a concern. The 901 transmission was used on the 911s up until the early 70s, at which point they were putting ~ 180 HP through it. I'll be doing a fair bit more than that, so we'll just have to see how it turns out. On the plus side, 901 transmissions are fairly cheap, as most of the cars originally equipped with them have long since rusted in half.
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