ITT we discuss why not to turbo your daily bent rod
12-07-2015, 11:24 AM
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Maybe I'll just pull the motor again! (No not really)
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12-07-2015, 12:06 PM
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I loosened the bolt and jacked up the tail a touch, and that tiny bit helped a lot. Very worth doing on my 99.
It's worth confirming that it is in fact the reroute leaking. There's also a couple small 1/4" size hoses back there, and I've had one of those fail before that leaked about like your picture shows. And it's not as difficult to service as the reroute spacer.
For my BEGI spacer, the best way to make it not leak so far for me is this:
0.5 Loosen PPF/Trans bolts, floor jack, jack it up a bit to gain some clearance in the back of the head
1. clean all surfaces perfect, final clean with brake parts cleaner
2. clean bolt threads so I can spin them in by hand easy
3. RTV the thermostat into the lip of the spacer, let that cure (hold it in spacer)
4. Install sticker-type thermostat gasket to spacer and to water outlet
At this point now there are only 2 pieces, the spacer (that has a gasket and thermostat glued to it) and a water outlet (which has a gasket glued to it.
Then assemble on the back of the head. Every time my reroute leaked, it was because the thermostat fell down while trying to get it bolted to the head. This method fixes that problem.
It's worth confirming that it is in fact the reroute leaking. There's also a couple small 1/4" size hoses back there, and I've had one of those fail before that leaked about like your picture shows. And it's not as difficult to service as the reroute spacer.
For my BEGI spacer, the best way to make it not leak so far for me is this:
0.5 Loosen PPF/Trans bolts, floor jack, jack it up a bit to gain some clearance in the back of the head
1. clean all surfaces perfect, final clean with brake parts cleaner
2. clean bolt threads so I can spin them in by hand easy
3. RTV the thermostat into the lip of the spacer, let that cure (hold it in spacer)
4. Install sticker-type thermostat gasket to spacer and to water outlet
At this point now there are only 2 pieces, the spacer (that has a gasket and thermostat glued to it) and a water outlet (which has a gasket glued to it.
Then assemble on the back of the head. Every time my reroute leaked, it was because the thermostat fell down while trying to get it bolted to the head. This method fixes that problem.
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12-07-2015, 12:20 PM
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I do something similar. But I pull the ppf out of the way like il pulling the trans and jack that **** to the moon. It gives you so much more room
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12-08-2015, 10:27 AM
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I drove the car this morning, parked it for like 10 minutes, then realized I had forgotten something and had to go back (like 10min each way), and it PEGGED the coolant gauge. Not like, got hot. PEGGED it. With the modified resistors I'm not really sure what that takes, but I know it's hot. Drove it maybe like 0.25mi into my driveway like that, and there was some steam. Pop the hood and there was a fair bit of steam, you could hear water spraying out somewhere on the back of the head. Same thing it's been doing, but with a lot more force. I'm assuming the antifreezeless water boiled. So, it obviously can't handle the drive home.
My guess is the plug on one of the 3/8npt holes on the bottom of the spacer isn't sealing. I'm going to spend tomorrow fixing this I guess and just go home a day late. I'm going to take the spacer off, take everything out of it, and put them all back in with a TON of thread tape. I realllllllly hope that fixes it.
My guess is the plug on one of the 3/8npt holes on the bottom of the spacer isn't sealing. I'm going to spend tomorrow fixing this I guess and just go home a day late. I'm going to take the spacer off, take everything out of it, and put them all back in with a TON of thread tape. I realllllllly hope that fixes it.
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12-11-2015, 01:34 PM
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That was less than enjoyable.
I took the coolant spacer off, redid all the tape on the fittings, and put it back on with new gaskets. SO FAR, it doesn't seem to be leaking. I'm reallllly hoping it stays that way. If it does I'm just burning the car to the ground.
I took the coolant spacer off, redid all the tape on the fittings, and put it back on with new gaskets. SO FAR, it doesn't seem to be leaking. I'm reallllly hoping it stays that way. If it does I'm just burning the car to the ground.
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12-22-2015, 03:33 PM
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From the AFPR. I have 10ft of line, but I would need some to do the AFPR -> rail still. Which would mean finding some locally or paying $20+shipping for 3 more feet of ptfe hose.... Or I just continue with the original plan, cut my poor 10' piece of hose, just use the stock 1/4" evap line for the return.
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12-22-2015, 04:06 PM
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Appreciate the offer, but I already purchased all the ptfe fittings and stuff. I might measure everything once I'm back in town from visiting family and make a decision then.
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12-24-2015, 12:14 PM
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So, the Miata certainly has had a case of the holiday blues this week.
@DNMakinson is probably the only one that will understand this geographically, but basically the car left me stranded in a HORRIBLE spot. Rush hour traffic, super major interchange. Picture the kind of exit ramp on the interstate that backs all the way down the ramp back into the right lane of the highway during 5:00 traffic, and the car shut off at the top of the ramp right before it split into a left and right turn lane with no straight. (For David, the North bound exit ramp off of 385 on to Woodruff Road)
Two construction workers helped me push the car into the triangle shaped median between the left and right turn lanes.
So, what happened? I'm sitting behind cars at a red light. Heard a click/thud/type noise, car shut off. Tried to start it, tried to start it, no dice. I smell gas. Get out of car, and there's gas EVERYWHERE. I immediately know what it was. The quick release on the fuel line going in to my fuel filter had looked a little dicey ever since the PO (my dad) had it replaced. The fitting finally broke. So, basically an open dump of gas out of the fuel line every time the system was trying to pressurize. I sat at the back of the car (on the other side) waiting on AAA, fire extinguisher waiting ready by my leg in the event someone decided to throw a cigarette or something out their window and light a nice fire trail to my car. Lucky for the gasoline but unlucky for me, it was POURING rain. Also, don't lay on your side to look under the car if there's gasoline all over the ground. I really regretted that about 5 minutes later, and continued to for the next two hours before I got home and could shower.
At least it was something minor, already ordered a $15 Wix filter off of Amazon. Right before all this happened I was admiring the steam coming off the area on the hood above the turbo as rain water pooled. If another fuel line had failed, this could have been a very different kind of story. All in all, a more time consuming experience than anything else. Gotta love AAA.
(Pictures don't adequately portray the situation, as I waited until traffic had subsided some to take them)
@DNMakinson is probably the only one that will understand this geographically, but basically the car left me stranded in a HORRIBLE spot. Rush hour traffic, super major interchange. Picture the kind of exit ramp on the interstate that backs all the way down the ramp back into the right lane of the highway during 5:00 traffic, and the car shut off at the top of the ramp right before it split into a left and right turn lane with no straight. (For David, the North bound exit ramp off of 385 on to Woodruff Road)
Two construction workers helped me push the car into the triangle shaped median between the left and right turn lanes.
So, what happened? I'm sitting behind cars at a red light. Heard a click/thud/type noise, car shut off. Tried to start it, tried to start it, no dice. I smell gas. Get out of car, and there's gas EVERYWHERE. I immediately know what it was. The quick release on the fuel line going in to my fuel filter had looked a little dicey ever since the PO (my dad) had it replaced. The fitting finally broke. So, basically an open dump of gas out of the fuel line every time the system was trying to pressurize. I sat at the back of the car (on the other side) waiting on AAA, fire extinguisher waiting ready by my leg in the event someone decided to throw a cigarette or something out their window and light a nice fire trail to my car. Lucky for the gasoline but unlucky for me, it was POURING rain. Also, don't lay on your side to look under the car if there's gasoline all over the ground. I really regretted that about 5 minutes later, and continued to for the next two hours before I got home and could shower.
At least it was something minor, already ordered a $15 Wix filter off of Amazon. Right before all this happened I was admiring the steam coming off the area on the hood above the turbo as rain water pooled. If another fuel line had failed, this could have been a very different kind of story. All in all, a more time consuming experience than anything else. Gotta love AAA.
(Pictures don't adequately portray the situation, as I waited until traffic had subsided some to take them)
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12-24-2015, 12:37 PM
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I imagine there were cars everywhere. Huge shopping area.
Couple let of months ago I had a gas nozzle not shut off while I was inside the store getting coffee. Was afraid to start car, open the door even, for a while, but scared to leave the car sitting in the puddle. Turned out OK for me as well.
Couple let of months ago I had a gas nozzle not shut off while I was inside the store getting coffee. Was afraid to start car, open the door even, for a while, but scared to leave the car sitting in the puddle. Turned out OK for me as well.
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12-25-2015, 11:22 PM
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So, the Miata certainly has had a case of the holiday blues this week.
@DNMakinson is probably the only one that will understand this geographically, but basically the car left me stranded in a HORRIBLE spot. Rush hour traffic, super major interchange. Picture the kind of exit ramp on the interstate that backs all the way down the ramp back into the right lane of the highway during 5:00 traffic, and the car shut off at the top of the ramp right before it split into a left and right turn lane with no straight. (For David, the North bound exit ramp off of 385 on to Woodruff Road)
Two construction workers helped me push the car into the triangle shaped median between the left and right turn lanes.
So, what happened? I'm sitting behind cars at a red light. Heard a click/thud/type noise, car shut off. Tried to start it, tried to start it, no dice. I smell gas. Get out of car, and there's gas EVERYWHERE. I immediately know what it was. The quick release on the fuel line going in to my fuel filter had looked a little dicey ever since the PO (my dad) had it replaced. The fitting finally broke. So, basically an open dump of gas out of the fuel line every time the system was trying to pressurize. I sat at the back of the car (on the other side) waiting on AAA, fire extinguisher waiting ready by my leg in the event someone decided to throw a cigarette or something out their window and light a nice fire trail to my car. Lucky for the gasoline but unlucky for me, it was POURING rain. Also, don't lay on your side to look under the car if there's gasoline all over the ground. I really regretted that about 5 minutes later, and continued to for the next two hours before I got home and could shower.
At least it was something minor, already ordered a $15 Wix filter off of Amazon. Right before all this happened I was admiring the steam coming off the area on the hood above the turbo as rain water pooled. If another fuel line had failed, this could have been a very different kind of story. All in all, a more time consuming experience than anything else. Gotta love AAA.
(Pictures don't adequately portray the situation, as I waited until traffic had subsided some to take them)
@DNMakinson is probably the only one that will understand this geographically, but basically the car left me stranded in a HORRIBLE spot. Rush hour traffic, super major interchange. Picture the kind of exit ramp on the interstate that backs all the way down the ramp back into the right lane of the highway during 5:00 traffic, and the car shut off at the top of the ramp right before it split into a left and right turn lane with no straight. (For David, the North bound exit ramp off of 385 on to Woodruff Road)
Two construction workers helped me push the car into the triangle shaped median between the left and right turn lanes.
So, what happened? I'm sitting behind cars at a red light. Heard a click/thud/type noise, car shut off. Tried to start it, tried to start it, no dice. I smell gas. Get out of car, and there's gas EVERYWHERE. I immediately know what it was. The quick release on the fuel line going in to my fuel filter had looked a little dicey ever since the PO (my dad) had it replaced. The fitting finally broke. So, basically an open dump of gas out of the fuel line every time the system was trying to pressurize. I sat at the back of the car (on the other side) waiting on AAA, fire extinguisher waiting ready by my leg in the event someone decided to throw a cigarette or something out their window and light a nice fire trail to my car. Lucky for the gasoline but unlucky for me, it was POURING rain. Also, don't lay on your side to look under the car if there's gasoline all over the ground. I really regretted that about 5 minutes later, and continued to for the next two hours before I got home and could shower.
At least it was something minor, already ordered a $15 Wix filter off of Amazon. Right before all this happened I was admiring the steam coming off the area on the hood above the turbo as rain water pooled. If another fuel line had failed, this could have been a very different kind of story. All in all, a more time consuming experience than anything else. Gotta love AAA.
(Pictures don't adequately portray the situation, as I waited until traffic had subsided some to take them)
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12-25-2015, 11:27 PM
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This guy held his horn down and was yelling at the tow truck driver blocked the right turn lane to grab the car. He just stopped working, leaned against the truck, and crossed his arms. It was awkward.
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12-26-2015, 02:52 AM
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People that get angry at tow truck drives **** me the hell off. I mean, come on.
Last year I had a relay die after a track day. Car was towed home. The truck was out in the street lined up with my driveway, slowly backing in. Driver gets out to check clearance with me on the rock wall etc, and to see if we're far enough up that when he tilts the bed, the car will be on the level part.
Then there's the horn. I look for a car but don't see it. I walk around the truck, and she is literally 3 feet from the side of the truck.
Seriously? Turn around. Go around the block. It's not like it's a big block, or my neighborhood is a through path to anywhere. It would have taken her maybe 90 seconds to back up/turn around/make some right turns and keep going.
Last year I had a relay die after a track day. Car was towed home. The truck was out in the street lined up with my driveway, slowly backing in. Driver gets out to check clearance with me on the rock wall etc, and to see if we're far enough up that when he tilts the bed, the car will be on the level part.
Then there's the horn. I look for a car but don't see it. I walk around the truck, and she is literally 3 feet from the side of the truck.
Seriously? Turn around. Go around the block. It's not like it's a big block, or my neighborhood is a through path to anywhere. It would have taken her maybe 90 seconds to back up/turn around/make some right turns and keep going.
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12-26-2015, 05:45 PM
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@aidandj I think I'm going to install the AFPR, Ethanol sensor, and do all the plumbing while i'm fixing this whole issue.
Yeah. People just see the immediate inconvenience and don't try to look for the 30sec detour around it. In this case, there was no alternative, and they would have been stuck for ~5-7 minutes or so.
He got a call from his boss when I was riding in the truck because the guy had called and complained
People that get angry at tow truck drives **** me the hell off. I mean, come on.
Last year I had a relay die after a track day. Car was towed home. The truck was out in the street lined up with my driveway, slowly backing in. Driver gets out to check clearance with me on the rock wall etc, and to see if we're far enough up that when he tilts the bed, the car will be on the level part.
Then there's the horn. I look for a car but don't see it. I walk around the truck, and she is literally 3 feet from the side of the truck.
Seriously? Turn around. Go around the block. It's not like it's a big block, or my neighborhood is a through path to anywhere. It would have taken her maybe 90 seconds to back up/turn around/make some right turns and keep going.
Last year I had a relay die after a track day. Car was towed home. The truck was out in the street lined up with my driveway, slowly backing in. Driver gets out to check clearance with me on the rock wall etc, and to see if we're far enough up that when he tilts the bed, the car will be on the level part.
Then there's the horn. I look for a car but don't see it. I walk around the truck, and she is literally 3 feet from the side of the truck.
Seriously? Turn around. Go around the block. It's not like it's a big block, or my neighborhood is a through path to anywhere. It would have taken her maybe 90 seconds to back up/turn around/make some right turns and keep going.
He got a call from his boss when I was riding in the truck because the guy had called and complained
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Replaced the 2.5" V-Band gasket with a thicker aluminum one today. No more leak there.
It is is definitely still leaking out of the 5-bolt flange on the back of the turbo though. I'm not running a gasket there. So, I guess I'm going to need to take the turbo/manifold off the car and add a gasket there one of these days.
It is is definitely still leaking out of the 5-bolt flange on the back of the turbo though. I'm not running a gasket there. So, I guess I'm going to need to take the turbo/manifold off the car and add a gasket there one of these days.
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