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18psi 06-26-2015 04:54 PM

disable ego correction in ms and it wont freak out.
stock ecu won't care if you disconnect the rear o2, it will just throw a cel

if you mean disconnected sensor in the exhaust, it's not a good diea, but won't explode your sensor in .00003 seconds like some will make it sound

patsmx5 06-26-2015 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by rleete (Post 1244146)
Wish you were closer. I could fix that sumbitch right up.

Quick question: can I install a wideband sensor (Bosch) and run the car without hooking it up for a day or two? I don't have a plug for the bung, and I want to drive the car. But I also don't want to screw up the sensor.

Bad idea, that can ruin the sensor. They need to be powered up when installed.

aidandj 06-26-2015 05:06 PM

<p>From what I understand all that powering it does is turn on the heater. It will heat up anyways with exhaust flowing by. according to the manuals I'm wrong.</p>

rleete 06-26-2015 05:33 PM

Thanks, I'll just wait until I can pick up a plug. Not worth risking a sensor just for a weekend joyride.

Jeffbucc 06-26-2015 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by rleete (Post 1244177)
Thanks, I'll just wait until I can pick up a plug. Not worth risking a sensor just for a weekend joyride.

JBweld that shit in like playdough for the weekend!:rofl:

patsmx5 06-26-2015 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1244167)
<p>From what I understand all that powering it does is turn on the heater. It will heat up anyways with exhaust flowing by.</p>

Seems right. I just read online that leaving an O2 sensor installed, but not powered up, will kill them in short order. I read it on the internet, so dunno. But I don't do that to be safe.

To OP, a local MIDAS where I live has those plugs in stock. Most any exhaust shop will have them. You may be able to get one locally.

Jeffbucc 06-26-2015 06:15 PM

If not just weld a small diameter sleeve in and tap it.

rleete 06-26-2015 07:27 PM

I will make a plug. Good excuse to use the lathe and practice single point threading.

richyvrlimited 06-26-2015 07:33 PM

You'll kill a wideband sensor if you run the engine with it unpowered. That's stated in the manuals for the innovate and AEM units at any rate.

A NB sensor won't care. Early NB sensors didn't even have built in heaters, they relied on EGTs to get to temp, but the temp a NB sensor is, isn't critical to its operation like it is with a WB.

Jeffbucc 06-26-2015 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by rleete (Post 1244193)
I will make a plug. Good excuse to use the lathe

If I had a lathe....holy shit the things I'd make.

aidandj 06-26-2015 09:54 PM

You should buy one. You can get good deal on China ones. Or find shop auctions.

rleete 06-27-2015 12:08 AM

I paid $359 for mine (homier Speedway, same as all the other brands) about 10 years ago. It's been a productive hobby ever since. They go for around $500 nowadays, if you find them on sale. But be forewarned, they are a work in progress. You have to make or buy parts for them (i.e. tailstock lock) to make them useful.

I made my shift knob (out of a trailer hitch ball, no less), and have made several for other people. That's one reason I offered to fix G's, as I already have the arbor.

aidandj 06-27-2015 12:10 AM

<p>Waitwaitwaitwait...lathe? for 500? I thought they were way more.</p>

rleete 06-27-2015 12:14 AM

Benchtop, Chinese made. 7x12 size. Small stuff.

Harbor Freight sells them. They cost about $600 when not on sale, but you can find coupons. They are typical Chinese quality. More of a kit than a working lathe.

hi_im_sean 06-27-2015 12:16 AM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1244250)
<p>Waitwaitwaitwait...lathe? for 500? I thought they were way more.</p>

thats about what any 7x12 goes for. for about $1k, you can have a 10x22 that is a working lathe.

theyve gone up in price since ive bought, i paid $950 shipped about 5 years ago
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gesso 06-27-2015 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffbucc (Post 1244228)
If I had a lathe....holy shit the things I'd make.

Please, go on, I would like to subscribe to your news letter. Seriously, a recent acquisition of mine makes this threads current off topic diversion of particular interest to me.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1435381034

18psi 06-27-2015 01:02 AM

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ooh our lathes match :party:

pops got one of these

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1435381365

aidandj 06-27-2015 11:54 AM

POST ALLOFTHELATHES.
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<br />For all we know Jeff could have already ordered one.

rleete 06-27-2015 12:04 PM

I have two lathes. One for metal/plastic, and one for woodworking (mostly pens). I made a cigar holder last night because I was sick of spitting out little bits of tobacco. Took me about 40 minutes, all told, because I am fussy.

Shall I up the ante with my mill as well?

Jeffbucc 06-27-2015 12:15 PM

I can just envision a lot of small parts and brackets that are a bitch to make/need a welder that would be fabulous to have a lathe for. Also 3D printers.

Plus I just think them & CNC machines are so damn cool(my YouTube watched history is full of lathe/CNC clips)

I always thought they went for thousands though, hence never approaching the possibility of owning one unless I got lucky on a used machine.

Getting a hitch and a tow dolly for my TDI are priority #1 at the moment though. It was 116° yesterday. Fuck. That. I'm not man enough to drive in that heat in the Miata(no AC). Especially with the hood vents pushing oven hot air into the cabin.


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