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codrus 07-21-2015 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 1250761)
Cliffs: I don't need timing gear right now.

Yeah, I haven't been able to do much useful with it yet. OTOH, it's somewhat inconclusive, because I haven't figured out the pinging yet.

--Ian

EO2K 07-21-2015 11:13 PM

Ok, fuck my life. I just found a Metric to Inches unit conversion error in the engine FSM with regards to valve clearances. :hahano:

I'll take a picture once I stop crying.

EO2K 07-21-2015 11:57 PM

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Dear lord, why are none of my calculations come out correctly? :vash:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1437537453

Probably because 0.12 mm ≠ 0.0111 in :hahano:

It does not gain me anything, but it was enough to make me scratch my head and doubt everything for about 5 minutes.


Originally Posted by codrus (Post 1250213)
BTW, if you need to reshim, I have a number of spares.

--Ian

I may take you up on this, thank you for the offer! I'll PM you what I'm looking for and we'll see if we can make something match up :bigtu:

codrus 07-22-2015 12:05 AM

Hm. So which is correct?

--Ian

EO2K 07-22-2015 12:17 AM

The metric is correct as far as I can tell. The actual spec for the intake is 0.0083 ±0.0011 as called out in every other location in this manual, or any other manual I downloaded in the last half hour or so.

PatCleary 07-22-2015 01:03 AM

Need a hand this weekend? I have no plans.

EO2K 07-22-2015 10:46 AM

Sure! More hands the merrier! I need to get the shim thing worked out, and of course I'll have to buy more beer :)

hornetball 07-22-2015 10:50 AM

The metric units are the native design dimensions. The English units contain conversion/roundoff errors. 1 inch = 25.4mm (exactly).

EO2K 07-23-2015 10:50 AM

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https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1437663018
That was heavier than expected.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1437663018
The fun part about this image is that you can aaaaaaaallmost read the headstamp from the bolt. :giggle:

As you can see, I am strong and fuzzy just like bear. Rawr. (honestly, I won't be doing that again without a hoist)

hornetball 07-23-2015 02:07 PM

You need to get some sun.

patsmx5 07-23-2015 02:52 PM

Wow I know that's a heavy assembly! I bet that sucked! I carried my shortblock only and it was pretty damn heavy.... I would guess that assembly you lifted is over 200 lbs... I think the shortblock is around 150.

Did you hear back anything about the shim issue?

Side note- motor looks pretty!

18psi 07-23-2015 02:59 PM

assembled long block is right around 300 undressed

patsmx5 07-23-2015 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1251236)
assembled long block is right around 300 undressed

:eek:

What's a shortblock weigh?

EO2K 07-23-2015 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by hornetball (Post 1251191)
You need to get some sun.

Thats the underside of my arm. Genetically I'm half Portuguese half "various european white" (Grandpas description, lol) so if I get any sun at all end up with a very olive skin tone, its tough to explain. My Dad looks like he's Mexican and made out of old leather after decades of working outdoors :rofl: Right now I have a glorious farmers tan because I work at a desk.

Originally Posted by patsmx5 (Post 1251231)
Wow I know that's a heavy assembly! I bet that sucked! I carried my shortblock only and it was pretty damn heavy.... I would guess that assembly you lifted is over 200 lbs... I think the shortblock is around 150.

It weights exactly this much:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1437686373

Originally Posted by patsmx5 (Post 1251231)
Did you hear back anything about the shim issue?

Yep! I found another set of feelers that has 0.0005 graduations and yes, you can add .0005 to nearly all those measurements. I suspect its even more on most of them. It is on the tight end of the spec and I ordered a couple shims to take care of the ones that are way out. Doing a bit of digging it looks like the Spec Miata guys run these motors even tighter to try to fake a couple extra degrees of duration out of the cams. While this is not a SM motor and while I don't usually condone copying things they do, it does not appear to destroy things. I am going to run it through the break-in naturally aspirated and see where things end up. Once it settles in and before I install the turbo I'll go though and reshim back closer to OEM. If my budget will allow I might even go SUBs. Maybe. Probably not though I can dream.

Originally Posted by patsmx5 (Post 1251231)
Side note- motor looks pretty!

Thanks! I wasn't sold on the color initially, but I've gotten used to it. IIRC its VHT SP997 "Nu-Cast Cast Iron." It ended up being a lot more gold than I was expecting. I'd like to touch up a couple places where its a little thin, but it'll probably be fine.

Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1251236)
assembled long block is right around 300 undressed

That sounds about right. My highly calibrated spine registers it as weighting "too much." Also, there is also an intake manifold on the back of that thing :party:

Originally Posted by patsmx5 (Post 1251239)
:eek:

What's a shortblock weigh?

"too much" minus head :giggle:

aidandj 07-24-2015 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by Monk (Post 1250376)
I am here primarily to troll.

<br />
<br />Do you even own a Miata? :fawk:
<br />
<br />Where are my mail kittens.

sixshooter 07-24-2015 12:26 PM

FWIW, Ryan G runs his oil feed through the opening behind the cam plate without issue. It is a clean way to route it.

EO2K 07-24-2015 12:41 PM

Sweet, thanks Six. :likecat: I'll go hustle his build thread and see if I can find some pics.

EO2K 07-24-2015 12:53 PM

It has begun.

I dropped the engine off at Gesso's place last night, tonights task will be to put the Miata back together so I can drive it up to his place tomorrow and tear it apart again.

Still no tracking number on the shims. I'm somewhat nervous about this detail.

18psi 07-24-2015 12:59 PM

Am I missing something or do you tear apart your car every weekend to do 1...thing...at....a.....time?

LOL

Need to change an exhaust bushing?
tear whole car apart down to the tub

Need to test fit a lug nut?
tear whole car apart down to the tub

need to try a new shift knob?
tear whole car apart down to the tub

:giggle:

Rallas 07-24-2015 01:21 PM

All that tearing down to the tub helps you get it done in 2 hours flat!


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