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That time being an election fraud denier wasn't cool.
https://media.thedonald.win/post/PTx6Ej9W.jpeg https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/21/m...g-machine.html The Myth of the Hacker-Proof Voting MachineFeb. 21, 2018
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Originally Posted by dieselmiata
(Post 1586597)
But only for the Presidential vote, and not ousting McConnell or any of the races that would actually matter in terms of getting bills passed.
Is it not reasonable to believe that Democrat controlled counties vote heavily Democrat? Pretty sure it would be a lot more eyebrow raising if these Democrat controlled counties went Republican. This is a pretty simple concept being argued here. Create a weighed system to give Biden say 1.1 votes and Trump .99. (remember, the only places in question are the Dominion Systems places) Paper ballots must match electronic totals. Trump has bigger turnout than expected, so wait till middle of night, create the exact extra ballots needed (no time to waste giving them to other races). dump. The pauses were suspicious. The last minute flips were as well. Unusually unrealistic viewer turnout (>100%) was suspicious. Statistically unrealistic vote percentage in only biden's favor was suspicious. Counties not using Dominion did not have these sort of anomalies. |
Originally Posted by Skamba
(Post 1586755)
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@Joe Perez with your interest in the law, you might also enjoy the memo. I sure did. It's filled with legal burns of the Trump campaign. Heh. Good read. I always chuckle a bit when the court, in dismissing a claim, pretty much openly mocks one party or the other (sometimes both) in the process. Even when the court is not a party to a multi-state conspiracy to steal a US Presidential election. One of my personal favorites is the Order to Remand of Judge James C. Paine in Noble v. Bradford Marine. It was peppered with Wayne's World references, with the headings of each part of the order being titled "Hurling Chunks", "Like a Winged Monkey Flying Out of the Ashes". "NOT!", and "A Schwing and a Miss." Judge Paine then knocked it out of the park at the very end, by closing with: "In short, Prime Time’s most bogus attempt at removal is ‘not worthy‘ and the Defendants must ‘party on’ in state court." Actually, there's another good one that I remembered. I'm just gonna copy-paste the Lexis notes directly: This morning, a tweet from OnTheDocket clued me in to a gem of an opinion that I'd never had the pleasure of reading previously. Bradshaw v. Unity Marine Corp., 147 F. Supp. 2d 668 (S.D. Tex. 2001), involved a claim for personal injuries filed by a seaman pursuant to the Jones Act. I'll let the Court's words speak for themselves: Before proceeding further, the Court notes that this case involves two extremely likable lawyers, who have together delivered some of the most amateurish pleadings ever to cross the hallowed causeway into Galveston, an effort which leads the Court to surmise but one plausible explanation. Both attorneys have obviously entered into a secret pact--complete with hats, handshakes and cryptic words--to draft their pleadings entirely in crayon on the back sides of gravy-stained paper place mats, in the hope that the Court would be so charmed by their child-like efforts that their utter dearth of legal authorities in their briefing would go unnoticed. Whatever actually occurred, the Court is now faced with the daunting task of deciphering their submissions. With Big Chief tablet readied, thick black pencil in hand, and a devil-may-care laugh in the face of death, life on the razor's edge sense of exhilaration, the Court begins. |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1586762)
Tell me again, why exactly are you so certain the election couldn't have been rigged? Because governments have a stellar record of being without fraud/abuse?
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 1586772)
One of my personal favorites is the Order to Remand of Judge James C. Paine in Noble v. Bradford Marine. It was peppered with Wayne's World references, with the headings of each part of the order being titled "Hurling Chunks", "Like a Winged Monkey Flying Out of the Ashes". "NOT!", and "A Schwing and a Miss."
Judge Paine then knocked it out of the park at the very end, by closing with: "In short, Prime Time’s most bogus attempt at removal is ‘not worthy‘ and the Defendants must ‘party on’ in state court." Actually, there's another good one that I remembered. I'm just gonna copy-paste the Lexis notes directly: This morning, a tweet from OnTheDocket clued me in to a gem of an opinion that I'd never had the pleasure of reading previously. Bradshaw v. Unity Marine Corp., 147 F. Supp. 2d 668 (S.D. Tex. 2001), involved a claim for personal injuries filed by a seaman pursuant to the Jones Act. I'll let the Court's words speak for themselves: Before proceeding further, the Court notes that this case involves two extremely likable lawyers, who have together delivered some of the most amateurish pleadings ever to cross the hallowed causeway into Galveston, an effort which leads the Court to surmise but one plausible explanation. Both attorneys have obviously entered into a secret pact--complete with hats, handshakes and cryptic words--to draft their pleadings entirely in crayon on the back sides of gravy-stained paper place mats, in the hope that the Court would be so charmed by their child-like efforts that their utter dearth of legal authorities in their briefing would go unnoticed. Whatever actually occurred, the Court is now faced with the daunting task of deciphering their submissions. With Big Chief tablet readied, thick black pencil in hand, and a devil-may-care laugh in the face of death, life on the razor's edge sense of exhilaration, the Court begins. |
Originally Posted by Skamba
(Post 1586776)
But... that would mean that there's no conspiracy. And there has to be a conspiracy! Otherwise, Orange Man didn't win. And of course Orange Man won. Ergo: a conspiracy must exist. |
Originally Posted by Skamba
(Post 1586777)
These make me wonder if perhaps I chose the wrong profession :giggle:
I went down that path. Fortunately, life-events provided me with a convenient escape before I'd gotten in too deep. The legal profession really is quite unpleasant and unrewarding for most of those who enter it. |
A common trait among conspiracy theorists is their need to derogate critics. Criticism must be devalued because it threatens the comfort provided by the conspiracy. This is done in one of two ways. Either the critic is too dumb to see the intricacies of the conspiracy, and is thus contributing to it by ignoring it; or they're actively helping the conspirators to cover up the truth. The unconsidered third option: that the critic is just not convinced by the evidence, is undesirable because it would create a reason to doubt the comforting belief.
The two ways of derogating critics have distinct, self-serving functions. In believing that some critics are too dumb to see their special knowledge, theorists establish their superiority. In believing that other critics are part of the conspiracy, theorists are manufacturing evidence to support their special knowledge. |
Having been away from this thread for far too long(?), I came back recently in the certain knowledge that much entertainment was to be had, given a recent event in a strange land over the water.
Thanks Brain et al, much appreciated! Having said that, I do regret that my entertainment is coming at a cost to your society and governance, but that is your choice not mine. |
Timeline of events:
2017: Russia Meddled in our election. 2018: Russia Meddled in our election. 2019: Russia Meddled in our election. 2020: "In believing that some critics are too dumb to see their special knowledge, theorists establish their superiority. In believing that other critics are part of the conspiracy, theorists are manufacturing evidence to support their special knowledge." |
Originally Posted by Skamba
(Post 1586776)
As a neutral outsider (I really have no stake in your elections), my reasoning is as follows:
I am absolutely sure the MSM is part of the conspiracy. No matter how much you hate Trump, he has accomplished some good things we never hear about. For example, getting the remains of those 55 servicemen lost during the Korean conflict returned is a big deal. CNN only gave it 30 seconds of coverage, and that was not live. MSNBC didn't cover it at all. Also, that picture of the "kids in cages" was from 2014. Apparently, it was okay when the O'Bomber was president. You can see from the questions Sleepy Joe is getting that they're in on it, whatever that "it" is. I'm retired military and still work as a contractor for the DoD. I have to take "Information Assurance" training every year to maintain my classified computer access. I know absolutely without question that Hillary and her staff mishandled classified information. The statute is clear. Dozens of people had to know about it and participate in it. In fact, Hillary probably didn't do the actual transfer of data to the unclassified side, so there could have been a "fall guy" or guys. The fact that the intelligence and justice communities did nothing proves there is a conspiracy. We now know the Steele Dossier, the FISA warrants, and the whole Russiagate scandal was a hoax perpetrated to derail the president. $34M spent on lies. Definitely a conspiracy. The Ukraine phone call and following impeachment was a conspiracy. Did anyone ever hear of what statute/law was supposedly broken by Trump by asking the Ukrainian president to investigate Creepy Joe? I never did. It was certainly interesting to find out that the MSM would break away from the hearings when republicans were making their arguments. Why did the voting irregularities only happen in dimocrat run swing states? Why was the counting stopped in just those states? Conspiracy. I saw the Trump rallies and the Biden pressers. No way Biden won, IMHO. His voters are the people that drive around alone in their cars with the windows up and a/c on, wearing masks... |
Originally Posted by poormxdad
(Post 1586832)
I'm retired military and still work as a contractor for the DoD.
... I saw the Trump rallies and the Biden pressers. No way Biden won, IMHO. His voters are the people that drive around alone in their cars with the windows up and a/c on, wearing masks... https://media.thedonald.win/post/yHsCjE4b.jpeg |
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Reminds me of my youth -
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Originally Posted by poormxdad
(Post 1586832)
I am absolutely sure the MSM is part of the conspiracy. No matter how much you hate Trump, he has accomplished some good things we never hear about. For example, getting the remains of those 55 servicemen lost during the Korean conflict returned is a big deal. CNN only gave it 30 seconds of coverage, and that was not live. MSNBC didn't cover it at all. Also, that picture of the "kids in cages" was from 2014. Apparently, it was okay when the O'Bomber was president. You can see from the questions Sleepy Joe is getting that they're in on it, whatever that "it" is.
I'm retired military and still work as a contractor for the DoD. I have to take "Information Assurance" training every year to maintain my classified computer access. I know absolutely without question that Hillary and her staff mishandled classified information. The statute is clear. Dozens of people had to know about it and participate in it. In fact, Hillary probably didn't do the actual transfer of data to the unclassified side, so there could have been a "fall guy" or guys. The fact that the intelligence and justice communities did nothing proves there is a conspiracy. We now know the Steele Dossier, the FISA warrants, and the whole Russiagate scandal was a hoax perpetrated to derail the president. $34M spent on lies. Definitely a conspiracy. The Ukraine phone call and following impeachment was a conspiracy. Did anyone ever hear of what statute/law was supposedly broken by Trump by asking the Ukrainian president to investigate Creepy Joe? I never did. It was certainly interesting to find out that the MSM would break away from the hearings when republicans were making their arguments. Why did the voting irregularities only happen in dimocrat run swing states? Why was the counting stopped in just those states? Conspiracy. You could throw the climate change hoax in there, too. While I'm absolutely sure the climate is changing--the word "climate" by its very definition is an attempt at describing the average weather of a region over an extended period of time. Therefore, the description of the climate of North America over the past 30 years would be different of that for the last 100 years, which would be different than that for the last 1000. What I don't believe is that politicians who can't do anything right--like count votes or make AmTrac profitable or Social Security solvent--can actually change the temperature of the planet if we just paid more taxes and endured a little more hardship. It's ridiculous. While I respect those folks who have a deep, emotional need to protect the planet, the idea that some politican like Maxine Waters or Mazie Hirono might be the "Temperature Czar" is laughable. It's a hoax, a conspiracy, because it's brilliant. Simply stopping the climate from changing requires no plan or goals. There are no milestones to measure the government's progress towards success. Since the climate changes slowly, they can come out each year and say "Hey, John Q., the climate today is basically the same as it was this time last year, so what we're doing must be working. Give us more taxes". Conspiracy. The problem is the "one conspiracy" theory means there are people in charge, directing the actors. Who? Take the MSM talking points. Remember "gravitas"? Or when they all described the Republican Convention as having a "dark message"? Who picked those words and how did they get to each network? Why do all the talking heads agree to say the same things, over and over? No one ever steps out of line. You'd think that if one of these liberal clowns with his or her own show started reporting the news they'd get a bigger audience and then could make more money. However, they all appear to be fine with the status quo. Why? Then you have "big tech" censoring everything they don't agree with, like discussion of hydroxychloroquine or voter fraud. Why are dimocrats pushing for more censorship? It's absolutely against the First Amendment. Why do the dims want to take our guns away now, after 234 years? More people die from medical malpractice and car accidents than by gun violence. New World Order? Great Reset? One Conspiracy? What would be the reward? |
Originally Posted by poormxdad
(Post 1587027)
New World Order? Great Reset? One Conspiracy? What would be the reward?
If you're asking from the point of view of a member of the two-party political system, then that's a significant reward. |
Power and control is all these people want.
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Originally Posted by Bajingo
(Post 1587031)
Power and control is all these people want.
But remember, some animals are more equal than others. |
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