Don't listen to anything Brain has to say. He still doesn't believe Trump colluded with Russia.

 

 

I'll see your one tweaked out drug sniffing dog and raise you a $500,000 painting like the ones we did in art class, 6th grade.


AMERICA, where if you're in the right political party you can get $500k for a doodle or $500k for a 50 minutes speech. Nothing to see here....move along.

 

I'll start by stating two assumptions which I'm making here, without both of which this conversation makes no sense:Now, I'll pause for a moment, to bring in a very relevant quote from cordycord just a few posts prior:
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Either of you can answer me the following question, and Hector, please imagine that you're in Cordy's present position for the purpose of this question: Assuming that all five of those republican candidates you're actively campaigning against win in their primaries, will you then vote against them in the general election, by choosing a democrat instead?


I'd wager that the answer is no. And it will be the same for the vast majority of American voters.

When Americans do vote, in general elections, there is a massive propensity for them to vote along party lines, based upon their long-held beliefs about the various parties. Here is an example of that:


For Cordy, there's no question that he's not going to vote Democrat, no matter who is on the ballot under any other party's banner. And the same applies to pretty much everyone else as well. The big question is whether, for any given election, they bother to vote at all.


Let me repeat that: The big question is whether, for any given election, they bother to vote at all.


What matters most in a general election is which political party manages to incite their voters to actually bother to cast a ballot in the first place, generally by provoking the fear of terrible consequences should the other side win, thus increasing the voter participation rate in a way which favors them.


In 2016, Trump and the Republican party managed to terrify enough of their fanbase of the horrors which would ensue if Clinton, whom they perceive to be the corporeal manifestation of the Devil itself, were elected. So they voted. Leftists, meanwhile, remained relatively complacent, resting comfortably on predictions that there was no possible way that Orange Clown could possibly win, so they weren't as motivated to cast ballots in order to prevent it.

In 2020, the exact opposite phenomenon occurred. Leftists, outraged by the horrors of four solid years of mean tweets, were highly motivated to cast ballots in order to prevent a second term of the man whom they believed to be functionally indistinguishable from Hitler, whereas righties didn't seem to fear that the bumbling, semi-coherent caricature of a nominee which the Democrats had managed to promote all the way to the ballot would ever manage to find his was into the White House.



And, going all the way back to where we started, Hector, I hope that this answers your question, and clarifies the reasoning behind my earlier statements.

 

Wait, you actually believe he did???

 

this isn't quite true; he has record turn-out in the primary as an incumbent, and for reelection. 62,985,106 votes in 2016 to 74,216,154** in 2020


Trump is now 160:14 for his endorsements in the primaries so far.

 

Remember when Trump was called a Russian spy because he tried to ban Tik Tok?

 

research based pro-science.

 

when your school system pumps out confused dumb children for years:

 

Well Brain beat me to it but again, this statement is likely to be fact-checked as "somewhat true" since the Cheetoh received 10+ million more votes the second time around. Were there registered Republicans who didn't vote? Or even voted for Biden? Of course, the four years of constant media and political theater against him brainwashed these people too.*

The nation as a whole had record turnout in terms of % who voted and total votes. So following the theory of terror being the motivation for voting, pretty much everyone was scared shitless.

*Yes, I know you don't believe the media had any ill will towards Trump and they were always unbiased and fair. But even I who doesn't watch the news would walk into places of business that had them on and it was non-stop fearmongering and lies. Remember, Trump colluded with Russia.

 

The highest since 1960, when Kennedy beat incumbent-VP Nixon by the narrowest of margins.

That was also a very politically-contentious time, with many parallels to 2020. The Korean War was a more recent memory to them than the assassination of Bin Laden is to us today, war in Vietnam was already brewing, and of course the perceived Russian threat loomed much larger. Kennedy had not been a favorite early in the Democratic primaries, while Nixon was being accused of being soft on Russia while simultaneously contributing to the events which led up to the Cuban missile crisis.


That's not true at all.

I know, as a member of the media, that we (my specific branch) are not engaged in a broad-ranging conspiracy to defame President Trump. At the same time, I completely acknowledge that some media outlets have much different (and stronger) biases than others, which leads to some using labels such as "denier" much more freely than others, and about different things.

 

OBEY.

 

It's incredibly easy to vote when you can photocopy your ballot, stuff them in a drop box (or scan pre-filled ballots multiple times late at night while you're dealing with a water main break). And no one will ever contest your multiple votes because "all votes count" and looking into that sort of thing is baseless because we didn't look into that sort of thing therefore we dont look into that sort of thing plus it's also already pre-bunked that voter fraud even exists, so no need to look into that sort of thing.

Trump was 15-0 for endorsements last night.

 

obey science:

 

A good friend of mine sent me this as a gift.

 

Holy ****... apparently, you can now hunt down motorcycle riding thieves in Brazil.

https://citizenfreepress.com/breakin...treet-justice/

 

1) Starting from the bottom statements, 2020 was stolen. Don't draw anything from it, because it was stolen.

As for the rest, I'll simplify for you:

2) elections are never "one and done", unless you're Venezuela, Russia, China or similar. "It's a Republic, if you can keep it." means that the work is never done. Your hypothesis about having to vote for someone you don't like is always possible, and always temporary.

3) One of the people I campaigned against last cycle--also Republican--has woken up to the rest of the crew that I'm still against. Didn't get my vote last time, will probably get my vote this time. I'm a values voter, and his values have changed.

Circling back to #1, if we had a media we could trust, we could all be values voters. But that's not reality, and I guess it's never really been that way, ever (yellow journalism).

I really don't have some political equivalent of Einstein's theory of evolution, other that to mimic Jefferson who said that government was a necessary evil, and that we should limit the size and power as much as possible.

 

trust and obey the new world science.

 

glows so brightly.